User:Proeliator/horse notes

Horse Notes

This is a dump page to make notes of various horse related skills and bonuses used.

I have made a plugin to keep a track of how often you succeed/fail when using your horse, you can download the Horse Tracker pluging here - https://github.com/CaptainFlint86/DiscworldMud

Handling

Very, very rough data from various players. No solid data to back up claims.

ad.mo.ri.ho Bonus	Horse Doclity	Can handle horse?	Notes
190	88	yes	never fail any horse management check
201	82	yes
234	82	yes
215	72	yes	Quite horrible but works sometimes
220	72	yes	repoted 20% success rate
260	72	yes	100% success rate (except during combat)
300	72	yes	Seems to work well
270	70	yes	worked perfectly
319	68	yes	struggle to mount sometimes
300	65	yes	pretty good success rate
348	61	yes	Fall off often
420	52	yes	maybe 90% success, sometimes struggle to stash/retrieve items
454	54	yes	never fail any horse management check
505	42	yes	Fall off rarely
505	34	no
505	35	no
505	37	yes	fall off often
508	40	yes	occasionally fall off, small chance fail to mount

Below are the success ratios gathered using my plugin:

ad.mo.ri.ho Bonus	Horse Doclity	Mount	Stash/Retrieve	Lead	Dress	Riding	Fallen off	Wandered off	Notes
508	42	100%	100%	100%	100%	-	14	2	Mount success 103 fail 0
508	40	81%	87%	83%	100%	-	3	2
508	40	82%	85%	87%	100%	-	115	13	Used over a long period without changing bonus or docility
501	39	69%	-	-	-	-	-	-	Mount success 69 fail 31
508	39	68%	78%	70%	90%	-	31	2	Mount success 100 fail 46
508	39	71%	73%	72%	87%	-	68	3	Mount success 173 fail 71
508	38	71%	44%	63%	86%	-	9	0	Used for short period

Charge/Storm

fi.sp.mo Bonus	Horse Docility	Horse Intuition	Horse Str	Highest charge/storm type	Notes
199	64	66(+5)		n/a
200	68	82		n/a
201	64	66(+5)		walk
205	68	82		walk	fell off during storm
222	72	92	62	walk	Success: 46 Fail: 31 (60%),Success: 65 Fail: 37 (64%)
222	72	92	62	trot	Success: 0 Fail: 13 (0%)
237	60	68		walk
242	60	68(+5)	98+5	walk	(20+ tries for charge and 15+ tries for storm)
247	60	68(+5)	98+5	walk	(20+ tries for charge and 15+ tries for storm)
249	60	68(+5)	98+5	walk	(20+ tries for charge and 15+ tries for storm)
250	60	68(+5)	98+5	walk	(20+ tries for charge and 15+ tries for storm)
251	60	68(+5)	98+5	trot	very small probability (less than 1 in 100), but a single storm did work in several hundred tries - 1% (estimated; first successful charge at a trot.)
252	60	68(+5)	98+5	trot	2% (estimated before using Proeliator's tracker)
253	60	68(+5)	98+5	trot	seems around 1 in 15 (TM to level 217 at bonus 253) - 4% (estimated before using Proeliator's tracker)
254	60	68(+5)	98+5	trot	seems around 1 in 12 (TM to level 219 at bonus 254) - 6% (estimated before using Proeliator's tracker)
255	60	68(+5)	98+5	trot	seems around 1 in 6 (TM to level 221 at bonus 255) - 9% (estimated before using Proeliator's tracker)
256	60	68(+5)	98+5	trot	seems around 1 in 4 - 12% (estimated before using Proeliator's tracker)
257	60	68	98	trot	poorly lit, Success: 34 Fail: 166 (17%) - 16% (726 tries), 2 TM
257	60	68(+5)	98(+5)	trot	well lit + warpaint: Success: 17 Fail: 75 (18%)
258	60	68(+5)	98(+5)	trot	18% (241 tries) 1 level learned, 1 TM
259	60	68(+5)	98(+5)	trot	17% (120 tries) 1 level learned, 1 TM
260	60	68(+5)	98(+5)	trot	19% (98 tries) 1 level learned, 1 TM
261	60	68(+5)	98(+5)	trot	23% (250 tries), 2 TM
262	60	68(+5)	98(+5)	trot	36% (75 tries), 2 TM
263	60	68(+5)	98(+5)	trot	30% (82 tries), 2 TM
265	60	68(+5)	98+5	trot	still 1 in 3 (with Blessing stat boost)
272	61	97		walk	trot would not work
367	42	72	100	Gallop	Rarely
367	42	72(+5)	100(+5)	Gallop	Sometimes
375	40	72	100	Gallop	often
401	40	72	100	Gallop	Success: 97 Fail: 4 (96%). Success: 275 Fail: 19 (94%)
401	40	72	100	Gallop	Success: 1530 Fail: 113 (93%)

Grooming

cr.hu.an.gr Bonus	Horse Docility	Success	Notes
157	88	Yes	works more often than not, but not always
162	60	No	Only very rarely works
240	43	Yes	Wearing bronze helm - 100% success (24 attempts, 0 failures)
255	40(+5)	Yes	Fed Apple, Wearing bronze helm

Cracked Ocarina

fi.sp.mo Bonus	cr.mu.in.wi Bonus	cr.mu.pe Bonus	Horse Docility	Success	Notes
233	174	210	82	Yes

Assess

Needs

cr.hu.an.gr Bonus	Horse Docility	Success	Notes
158	88	Yes	Perfect assess results 50% of the time

logs

It is possible to fall off your horse during a charge:

Hrull hunches down over the rose grey horse and spurs her into a walk at the energetic priest.
Hrull charges straight into the energetic priest, putting all his weight into the blow.
Hrull loses his precarious attachment to Valkyrie the rose grey horse and goes flying.
Hrull shouts with a Lancrastian accent: For the Horde!
The energetic priest is rocked by the bloodcurdling warcry.
Hrull launches a powerful attack.  Hrull slices his highly illegal greatsword deeply into the energetic priest's right arm.
Valkyrie the rose grey horse launches a powerful attack.  Valkyrie the rose grey horse rips flesh off the energetic priest's right arm.
Hrull falls off Valkyrie the rose grey horse.

Thoughts

Please note that the following may be wrong

--Saddlecloth--

Is it possible that the saddlecloth acts as a mild amplifier for the saddle your horse is wearing? Where a Genuan saddle alone reduces the stamina cost during combat, a Genuan saddle + saddlecloth would reduce the stamina cost further.

--Stamina--

My theory is that the Vitality trait determines the pool of stamina available to your horse (for whatever activity). The amount of stamina used is based on a horses trait and your skill bonus (riding = ad.mo.ri.ho & speed, combat = fi.sp.mo & str).

Having better skills and a higher relevant trait will minimise the amount of stamina your horse uses during that activity, requiring a lower vitality and thus a smaller stamina pool.

Vitality can be raised through use by using your horse to exhaustion. Since you are running the stamina pool to empty it triggers the next adjustment to increase vitality and thus increase your horses stamina pool.