Talk:Circle

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Article says 'all spells' - does this include wizard spells?research --B (t) 23:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I believe it does, though as you suggest, we need some research to confirm. --Chat 16:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

It might be good to explicitly point out that a circle only affects the type of bugs, not the amount of them (if that's indeed the case). [Eucalypta]

Circle does indeed seem to improve the size of the swarm as well as the quality of bugs --Philtre 18:01, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

The article states that a circle has no bg magic until it is charged by a spell. I just took a bob reading in a fresh circle, and it dangled 6 times, implying some background magic. After casting a spell, it was only 4, and then slowly raised back to 5 and 6 with successive casts iside the circle. --Philtre 18:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Interesting. Readings with a thaumometer always give zero before the circle is charged. So one of the following is true:
  • The thaumometer lies until the circle is charged. This would actually be consistent with the performance of spells in a circle, as they seem to benefit even when cast the first time.
  • The divining bob lies about the inital charge.
It would seem that dangling the bob doesn't cause the circle to charge as an act in itself (which would have been another explaination) - the thaumometer still reads zero after dangling the bob.
I'm inclined to go with the thaumometer lying for now, given that we know even initial spells benefit from the circle's presence. On the other hand, the charging effect does exist - the easiest way to observe this is with NPCs attempting to enter a circle before and after it is charged. I'll update the article.
--Chat 18:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


With Ovca's help, we've confirmed that circle is learnt at 20 levels of ma.sp.sp , and not at GL 20 as previously stated under "Acquisitions" and at beam.to/lawks. - Qingfeng, 8th April 2012

Learnt at level

I learnt circle from Nanny Ogg at only 10 levels of ma.sp.sp, after advancing mainly methods. I think it might be a magic tree requirement rather than a ma.sp.sp one.