Research:Klein bottle

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The size 60 spell Mother Feelbright's Busy Bees when escaped from a small hag stone materialises a substantial sphere which returns 60 from a thaumometer.

Capturing the sphere and immediately releasing it by opening the bottle and measuring the sphere says it's now 50 thaums.

Repeating the capture-release keeps the thaumometer saying it's 50 thaums.

This might mean:

  • That it's not possible to charge more than 50 thaums into a Klein bottle since it only adds 50.


  • Released energies are brought down to 50 thaums.

Since charging with spells of 50 or 60 gives the same visible energy in the Klein bottle and increasing by steps of 60 should give other description it seems that using spell of size 60 is the same as using size 50. Since educing hag stones takes longer as the headsize increases it would thus be better to use spells of size 50 than size 60.

What's unclear from this is if there is a cap of 50 or if every capture rounds down the size.

--Frazyl 02:41, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

With a bottle showing a "tempest" of energy and adding a 60 spell (which should then have added 50) it exploded. So explode should start at 265 + 50 = 315 if the 265 figure is right. --Frazyl 02:52, 27 May 2011 (UTC)