Research:Judge/Information thresholds
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Observations
These seem to be based on both weapon skill and ad.ev.we bonus (I get different amounts information based on whether I'm judging sword vs. dagger). They also seem to be consistent, in that you'll get the same amount of info for a successful judge on the same weapon type each time, irrespective of the actual weapon in that class.
- The above does not hold true for me. My skills are border line, and I find a fine sabre far harder to judge than a hunting sword. Also, the results fluctuate wildly, I can get results ranging from 'quite easy' to 'very easy', seemingly at random.
- This section isn't about judge accuracy/difficulty, this is about how much information you're given.
The data points now suggest a complicated relationship; the best fit is
Judge info rating = floor(722 * ((ad.ev.we ^ 0.1) - 1.2) * ((fi.me.x ^ 0.1) - 0.6832))
Putting this into the table gives:
- You need an info rating of at least 367 to see ease of attack information.
- You need an info rating of at least 400 to see ease of parry information.
- You need an info rating of at least 433 to see damage information.
- You need an info rating of at least 465 to see speed information.
Data
ad.ev.we bonus | fi.me.* bonus | Judge info rating | Can see ease to attack with | Can see ease of parrying with | Can see maximum damage | Can see average damage | Can see weapon speed |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
197 | 84 | 313 | No | No | No | No | No |
148 | 359 | 361 | No | No | No | No | No |
200 | 203 | 366 | No | No | No | No | No |
246 | 136 | 366 | No | No | No | No | No |
231 | 153 | 366 | No | No | No | No | No |
182 | 253 | 367 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
200 | 206 | 367 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
231 | 155 | 367 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
249 | 136 | 368 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
238 | 167 | 375 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
221 | 207 | 380 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
300 | 133 | 389 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
238 | 207 | 389 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
231 | 230 | 392 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
254 | 207 | 397 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
265 | 194 | 399 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
257 | 207 | 399 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
196 | 357 | 399 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
197 | 355 | 399 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
171 | 492 | 400 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
259 | 207 | 400 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
198 | 357 | 400 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
204 | 345 | 402 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
206 | 345 | 403 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
198 | 463 | 417 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
183 | 587 | 421 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
221 | 403 | 423 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
319 | 202 | 425 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
222 | 415 | 426 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
226 | 403 | 427 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
326 | 202 | 428 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
307 | 225 | 428 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
308 | 225 | 428 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
310 | 225 | 429 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
229 | 403 | 429 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
226 | 415 | 429 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
319 | 217 | 430 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
355 | 177 | 430 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
355 | 181 | 431 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
233 | 403 | 431 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
230 | 415 | 431 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
235 | 403 | 432 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
250 | 357 | 432 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
232 | 415 | 432 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
323 | 217 | 432 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
339 | 200 | 433 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
326 | 215 | 433 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
326 | 217 | 433 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
236 | 403 | 433 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
233 | 415 | 433 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
198 | 587 | 433 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
253 | 357 | 434 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
238 | 403 | 434 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
336 | 209 | 435 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
243 | 403 | 437 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
339 | 218 | 439 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
345 | 218 | 441 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
348 | 218 | 442 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
349 | 218 | 443 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
351 | 218 | 443 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
254 | 403 | 443 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
353 | 218 | 444 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
355 | 218 | 445 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
357 | 218 | 446 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
261 | 403 | 447 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
320 | 293 | 453 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
389 | 218 | 457 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
392 | 218 | 458 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
320 | 322 | 460 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
286 | 403 | 460 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
235 | 613 | 462 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
235 | 615 | 462 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
236 | 617 | 463 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
365 | 262 | 463 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
365 | 263 | 463 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
361 | 268 | 463 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
361 | 269 | 463 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
355 | 277 | 463 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
355 | 278 | 463 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
294 | 403 | 464 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
238 | 617 | 464 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
295 | 403 | 465 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
239 | 617 | 465 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
224 | 707 | 465 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
417 | 219 | 467 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
240 | 697 | 474 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
Data for comparing two weapons
For two weapons of the same type.
ad.ev.we bonus | fi.me.* bonus | Judge info rating | Can compare ease of attacking | Can compare ease of parrying | Can compare maximum damage | Can compare average damage | Can compare weapon speed |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
203 | 357 | 404 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
219 | 357 | 414 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
183 | 587 | 421 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
235 | 345 | 421 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
242 | 357 | 428 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
251 | 338 | 429 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
246 | 357 | 430 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
253 | 357 | 434 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
199 | 587 | 434 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
262 | 357 | 439 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
273 | 357 | 445 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
206 | 628 | 444 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
207 | 631 | 445 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
209 | 626 | 446 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
217 | 613 | 450 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
230 | 607 | 458 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
295 | 405 | 465 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
319 | 407 | 477 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
323 | 407 | 479 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
326 | 407 | 479 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
240 | 697 | 474 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
323 | 451 | 487 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
345 | 406 | 488 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
319 | 464 | 487 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
326 | 451 | 488 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
326 | 454 | 489 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
326 | 468 | 491 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
261 | 718 | 490 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
334 | 471 | 495 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
336 | 471 | 496 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
339 | 471 | 497 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
345 | 471 | 500 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
348 | 471 | 501 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
349 | 471 | 502 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
351 | 471 | 503 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
353 | 471 | 503 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
355 | 471 | 504 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
287 | 707 | 504 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
357 | 471 | 505 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
365 | 471 | 509 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
384 | 471 | 516 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
389 | 471 | 518 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
392 | 471 | 519 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
395 | 471 | 521 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
397 | 471 | 521 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
399 | 471 | 521 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
397 | 475 | 522 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
403 | 471 | 524 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
409 | 471 | 526 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
412 | 453 | 524 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
412 | 463 | 526 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
412 | 471 | 527 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
412 | 475 | 528 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
417 | 471 | 529 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
note: unsure that it compares both max and average damage, or just lumps it together, I get: Compared to the sharpened sai, the sharpened sai is harder to attack with, easier to parry with and deals more damage.
Data for comparing two weapons
For two weapons of different type.
ad.ev.we bonus | fi.me.* (1) bonus | fi.me.* (2) bonus | Judge info rating | Can compare ease of attacking | Can compare ease of parrying | Can compare maximum damage | Can compare average damage | Can compare weapon speed |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
216 | 484 | 652 | 451 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
245 | 478 | 635 | 450 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
351 | 406 | 471 | 491 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
348 | 447 | 471 | 497 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
351 | 447 | 463 | 498 | Yes | No | No | No | No |
348 | 463 | 471 | 497 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
351 | 447 | 471 | 498 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
351 | 463 | 471 | 501 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
353 | 463 | 471 | 502 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
355 | 463 | 471 | 503 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
357 | 463 | 471 | 504 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
412 | 463 | 475 | 526 | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |