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Genua crime vs Bois

Theory: Crime in Genua results in a bad reputation in Bois.

Null hypothesis: There is no significant change of good reputation in Bois as a result of doing crime in Genua.

Criteria: A bad reputation in Bois is when grandma and the pigs yell 'Help! Help!' when you enter the room.

Verify pre-existing reputation in Bois

Checked with the grandma and the pigs, all good for them, they're not yelling 'Help! Help!' when I enter the room and I can do the pigs even though I already completed the quest. Good reputation confirmed.

Crime in Genua

Killed a citizen and attacked two city guards in Genua. Guards warn me to do community service or they'll beat me. I can shop at Aristide Felon, shop only available to criminals in Genua.

  • This is a significantly bad reputation in Genua, but far from the worst visible level of bad reputation for which the guards attack on sight. It can probably get worse by repeating offences (is there even a limit?).
Result in Bois

Grandma still friendly. Pigs still friendly. They're not yelling 'Help! Help!' when I enter the room and I can do the pigs even though I already completed the quest. Good reputation confirmed.


I cannot reject the null hypothesis. I see no significant result of a bad reputation in Genua with the npcs in Bois.

Further research

Further research could be done by checking first if the Bois reputation is good, then getting a much worse reputation in Genua (killing lots of guards) and testing again in Bois.

I'll wait a few days to see how long it takes the guards to forget I attacked them.

--Frazyl (talk) 02:25, 11 April 2021 (EDT)

On the 16th of April the guards were still:

One of the city guards says with a Genuan accent: Ah-ha, Frazyl!  We've been looking for you!  Either go and do some community service right now, or I take you down, punk.

On the 26th of April they reset to:

One of the city guards asks with a Genuan accent: Greetings, Mistress Frazyl.  Lovely night, don't you think?

So looks like it took around 2 weeks, or around 1 week of not going there to check.

--Frazyl (talk) 00:23, 26 April 2021 (EDT)

Little Brindisi

Stealing or failing to steal laundry can TM (forgot to log message) and

You feel that you suddenly have a better grasp on getting a better grasp on
things you oughtn't!

Picking an olive seems to need around 15 co.points

pick olive
You're a little too exhausted for that.
     Covert:   13 (118)


     Covert:   16 (118)
> pick olive
As you reach for an olive, your unsubtle attempts are spotted by a little old
black-clad Brindisian lady peeking out from behind a curtain!


  • Things that can be researched:

Genua - The city of Genua is famed around the Disc for the intelligence and sophistication of its citizens. A jewel amongst cities, it has had an unfortunate and unsettling history of late - the course of which has been changed by the intervention of some unexpected guests from the far-flung Ramtops.


Assassins - Since the Ankh-Morpork Assassin branch left during Lilith's reign, in the stability that followed her death there was a hole in Genuan society for contract killers. A group of hitmen broke off from the Coffee Nostra and, calling themselves the 'Mano Rossa' or 'Red Hands', they formed the Guild in Genua.

Their headquarters are in the old mansion that Ella grew up in on Dauphin Street; she gifted it to them to start their fledgling guild since she realised that all good cities need a way of removing unsightly ideas from society.


Voodoo - The swamps of Genua have power... powerful spirits roam the area, spirits that are both capricious and infinitely inscrutable. There exist a number of powerful practitioners of magic who can harness these spirits for their own ends... this practice is called Voodoo, and those who can work it for their own ends are feared and respected. Voodoo is the pre-eminent religion in Genua, although several more traditional deities have found a welcoming home in its cosmopolitan streets.


Tacticus - One of Ankh-Morpork's greatest military heroes, and paradoxically one of the sons the city is most ashamed of. Many put this down to his reign as Duke of Genua during the First Empire. Genua wrote to Ankh-Morpork and asked to be sent one of Ankh-Morpork's generals to take over as king since their own royal lines had died out through interbreeding so intensively that the last king kept trying to breed with himself.

So Tacticus was made into a Duke and bundled off to Genua, where his first act as ruler was to analyse what the city's biggest military threat was, and having identified it he declared war on Ankh-Morpork.

The current royalty of Genua is Ella Saturday, the Duchess of Genua. Past notables include Lady Lilith de Tempscire, and Baron Samedi.