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kimo wearing her scaly minidress and raspberry pink stompyboots, her arm crossed over her tentacle, low key side-eyeing you

hi it me

hello! i am a returnee to the disc but a newbie to wiki editing. thank you in advance for your patience, help, advice, and following me about with a dustbin! i am an unarmed tentacle-using npk ninja and creator of the Shonkers club for item collectors/hoarders. i am also hebley, kuzum, and courgette.

currently working on/to do list/pipe dreams

  • unarmed guide (here)
  • stayin alive stayin alive ah ah ah ah (almost at 28 days)
  • fighting.special.unarmed
  • more striking
  • more tactics... always more tactics...
  • strap gloves, clompy boots, dusters
  • options combat tactics focus head ?? so far so good
  • advancing covert
  • advancing guild level to get lion paws
  • some kind of ridiculous heavy weapon some day in the far flung future
  • chatelaine belts
  • happy monkey teeshirts
  • numberchasing on hebley
  • a fool alt

kimo's fav nicknames and aliases

  • alias nosteal [handy steal-breaking alias for nonthieves in ankh-morpork: advanced anti-heavying tech]

nosteal: alias steal nope;alias shoplift nope $*$

  • alias gosteal

gosteal: unalias steal;unalias shoplift $*$

  • alias hh [health check that skips unwounded players/npcs]

hh: health wounded all

  • nickname stuff

Nickname stuff expands to things except kept things&money&club badges&strips&furniture [i also throw in some of my deluded things i'm paranoid about losing]

  • alias fenceget

fenceget: unbag at most 10 stuff $*$ [unbag being "get $*$ from bag" derp i forget that one is even an alias]

  • alias fnce

fnce: fence $*$ to fence [don't forget you can nod to fences to respond nonverbally]

  • nickname dc

Nickname dc expands to damaged clothing 1 [for mending- get damaged things (or stuff) from bag, whatever your sewing alias is, mend dc repeatedly until all is fixed]

  • alias cond

cond: condition damaged things $*$

  • nickname wallet

Nickname wallet expands to [black lacquer box] in velvet bag.

  • alias smokie (can give you stealth tms & other people perception tms! then you fall over and wibble!)

smokie: palm weed [black velvet pouch, identified as weed] from [moonlit market garter]belt;palm papers from weed;tear paper from book;put book in weed;palm 1 pinch of hasheesh from weed;slip weed to belt;roll cigarette using paper and some hasheesh;light cig[arette (yet another nickname)];smoke cig $*$

combat aliases!

arg:target is your friend. for combat use arg:target and you can just hit "fk" and feint/kick one of the npcs you're fighting, or you can enter "fk nobleman" to specify which one you want to target. for bandaging and rits use arg:me and you will automatically target yourself unless you specify otherwise.

  • feint/face kick: fk
alias fk nosoul feint $arg:target$;nosoul kick $arg:target$ in the face
  • trip/face kick: trk
alias trk nosoul trip $arg:target$; nosoul kick $arg:target$ in the face
  • shove/facekick: sk
alias sk nosoul shove $arg:target$;nosoul kick $arg:target$ in the face
  • stomach kick: ks
alias ks nosoul kick $arg:target$ in the stomach
  • shin kick (for brats only): ksh
alias ksh nosoul kick $arg:target$ in the shins
  • kidney punch: pk (lolol)
alias pk nosoul punch $arg:target$ in the kidneys
  • solar plexus punch: ps
alias ps nosoul punch $arg:target$ in the solar plexus
  • feint/face punch: fp
alias fp nosoul feint $arg:target$;nosoul punch $arg:target$ in the face
  • extensive kill all alias: ka
alias ka kill all except killers&mommet&shopkeepers&cats&cartographer&hags&bats&wizards&priests&clouds&summons&pets&camels&pure white birds&tomtom&palms&trees&luggages&dragons&kang wu&shopkeepers&stallowners&cobblers&ryattenoki&every fireflies&moths&lights&tneduts&phos-phor&lap-lip&oliver&guard thieves&carpetsmith&lip-phon&mihk&fences&ptyler&shifty-looking man&no go wan&ptarquet&pkara&hattian guards&goldenblossom&bessie&pennie&minions&chickens&goats&calves&skeleton warriors&priestesses&priests&pickpockets&players&trolls&real estate receptionist&paperboys&papergirls&golems 


combat settings aliases for quickly changing tactics and focus

  • alias tac (tactics settings quick look)
alias tac options combat tactics
  • alias ins
alias ins options combat tactics attitude = insane
  • alias off
alias off options combat tactics attitude = offensive
  • alias neu
alias neu options combat tactics attitude = neutral
  • alias def
alias def options combat tactics attitude = defensive
  • alias wimp
alias wimp options combat tactics attitude = wimp
  • alias fac (target head)
alias fac options combat tactics focus = head
  • alias ub (target upper body)
alias ub options combat tactics focus = upper body

the weird unarmed rearrange

Constitution ... 8        Strength ....... 17       Weight ......... 82.7 kg
Dexterity ...... 14       Wisdom ......... 15 (2) [charged prayer beads]   
Intelligence ... 13       Height ......... 177 cm

kimo's notes on unarmed

to be filled out and formatted as i have time and energy and some day moved to its own page


welcome to unarmed, arguably (see misc) the weirdest and most neglected and maligned but secretly most dynamic spec on the disc! ready to stay behind the damage curve but in a fun and rewarding if slightly punishing way? before we get started, a few notes:

  • tldr; you don't do as much damage as weapon-wielders but you're very fast. hitting stuff hurts your hands but there are ways to mitigate that. you don't have many unarmed toy/aid options! and that's kind of a shame but you may find you like one of them anyway or opt for none at all. you might not be able to solo things other players can at similar low or mid levels, but you'll be able to get loot just fine and grouping can supply all the ridiculous xp you might want.
  • use at your own risk: this is currently a combination of advice for newbies and midbies. some of the things covered here may not be feasible at very low levels (tentacle, focused attacks, insane mode etc gonna be uh interesting right out of pumpkintown), or may become redundant at very high levels (??? idk we'll find out). my personal method of unarmed gameplay generally involves a lot of micromanaging of options and specials, but there's no single or right way to do unarmed.
  • ask more questions whether you're a new newbie or not, don't be shy about asking questions! like, about literally everything. and don't worry if you don't know what questions to ask yet- try anyway. and don't worry if nobody knows the answer! maybe you'll be the one to puzzle it out. this is a really complex game and it's in constant development. my favourite talker channel for game help of any kind is igame.
  • tentacle stuff up at the top so nobody has to hunt for the juicy stuff: people ask me about the tentacle a lot! it is a pretty good conversation piece if not the best combat item in game. it's pretty gross but i enjoy it. the wiki page for it is pretty complete but for the record:
    • it turns some of my punches into tentacle slaps and bashes (slimy ones!), doesn't require a permit cause it isn't a weapon, and transmits unarmed damage to me automagically. it comes with a secret grappling bonus boost and no secret specials that we know of. it falls off and you have to rehold it. if you cut it off or die holding it it has to be soaked a while. you can't equip it over or under gloves or hand armour and you can't use two :( :( :( rip kimo's dual tentacle wielding dreams. one gets jealous and slaps the other one out of your hand onto the freaking floor i mean wtf. anyway,
    • i do not unequivocally recommend it to newbies- it's really expensive! and weird. maybe not super accessible. but i was still newbish when i got mine and was thrilled- so if it seems cool or fun for you? definitely save up and get it (or get oldbies to fund one for you but don't tell them i told you that). i can confirm that it is indeed cool and fun. and expensive and weird. all true things.
    • if you do have one, a way to keep track of it is setting up a trigger highlighting the drop phrase "The black flesh withdraws rapidly down your arm and contracts back into Little Friend" (YES I NAMED IT THAT OK yours will say squirming tentacle or whatever clever/cute/gross name you delude yours to), also sending "hold your damn tentacle!" to command.
    • also also also: DO NOT try to use a tentacle with anything other than the normal humanoid number of two (2) arms! use while missing an arm or using magic wizzie arms is buggy :( :( :( rip kimo's 3 or 4 tentacle wielding dreams.


skills

your unofficial primaries:

tldr of this section; can't really neglect any of the above skills except maybe health at any level because you're not using increasingly fancy weapons!

the rule of thumb as was explained to me is advance defensive skills first. this holds mostly true with unarmed except for parry damage. you will take damage through your hands straight through magical and faith shielding from punching trolls, armour, and being parried against with weapons. hitting a troll seems to give me 2 rounds of 1-10 damage each, specials can be more painful, being parried and blocked can be 10-50 depending? one round isn't much but it will whittle you down faster than you thought possible, esp when herding- that plus a few specials will take your head off really fast. with unarmed all your skills are defensive. dodging enemy attacks obviously will save your life but so will accurate strikes. you should still lead with advancing dodge (and health! just at least get your health up over 2k asap and then you can forget about again for a while) but advancing striking (a lot, like 400+ bonus) will reduce the moment to moment damage you take. for this reason you may consider hand armour rather than combat aids altogether.

at lower levels i alternated between focusing on dodge and tactics and haven't regretted it. i also discovered (really recently oops) that i was neglecting fighting.special.unarmed and (see specials below) have found since investing xp that it makes a substantial difference to prep, accuracy, and force of specials (yeah yeah i know i just forgot ok)


ap soak/fi.sp.ta

it u, u are one. tactics (the skill, not the setting, although the setting as well if you want to be semantic about it) affects how much ap it takes you to do things, or maybe how much ap you have. ap, or action points, is the big unknowable mystery number that determines your attack and reaction speed- basically the number of moves you can fit into a turn. if you've been grinding tactics, you can dodge a pretty high number of attacks and still get your 2ish hits per round in. it's rough on the knuckles, but a puncher is a good meat shield- see:


specials

since your damage per hit is fairly low specials count for a lot more. like unarmed aids, you won't get a wide variety of specials. you have two categories: the ap-absorbing specials trip shove and feint, and the attack specials kick and punch. use trip against bashy opponents and shove against dodgy ones. you also get command exp even on a failed special so it's worth getting and rotating them all. targeted specials are more difficult to complete but more powerful. combining an ap-draining special with a combat special can increase the chances of the combat special landing.

one of the many handy benefits of grinding sp ta is better feinting. aside from the obvious ap-absorbing benefits, fully successful shoving or tripping combined with a successful targeted kick will result in a stomp, which is of course deeply satisfying. feinting is incredibly useful and will often turn the fight around if you or your group run into an aggro imp or something and nobody's landing any hits (lol @ the thought of you (me) soloing an imp). your grappling bonus will give you the added benefit of being difficult to rob and may save you from certain djelian crocodilian doom should you come face to face with it.


tactics

options combat tactics (the setting, not the skill, though the settings also change your ap use sooooo) is a mixed bag- again because of parry damage. defensive and wimp modes may improve your dodge but i find my strikes may be less accurate (not tested, just a feeling), drawing more parry damage. for that reason these days i rarely go off insane mode (currently making myself a liar as i am close to 28 days and playing it safe on neutral mostly), but if you are soloing or group leading i definitely recommend some micromanaging by way of aliases. attack large groups on wimp, recover gp using neutral, and feel free to switch up when the rest of the group joins the fight and you're no longer the only person taking all the hits. it took me a while to get up the courage to attempt insane mode but find it pretty effective.

you can also use options combat tactics focus to change the focus area of your strikes- you may want to try focusing on upper body initially. i've just begun to experiment with focus = head, and am finding it really effective against npcs that aren't imps/guards so far, and so have made aliases to switch between fousing on upper body and head. focusing on the head i miss a slightly higher percentage of strikes overall and my attack speed is slightly reduced but the hits i land seem distinctly more destructive.


special abilities

i have been using the knee attack for a while now and kind of forget it's there although the attack messages are pretty enjoyable. i'm sure somebody somewhere has quantified knee strike damage but i haven't tracked them down or asked them about it to date. i do intend to exchange it for the genua statue (better targeted specials) at some point soon (again... maybe after 28 days bc coffee nostra). sto lat statue require 250 lvls of striking and the genua statue requires 150 lvls of perception and a fancy sword.


rearranging, stats, and stat items-

i uh don't think i could comment on rearranging- it's a pretty personal choice. i've done lots of rearranges on lots of alts and can honestly say i've learned nothing. best i can advise is plug everything into the bonus computer (plug straight 100s or 500s into all the fighting categories and look at bonuses) and the regen calculator until something clicks. i will say that someone once told me that str is the only thing you can't compensate for with masses of xp, and i've found that true. striking uses dex 2, str 1, and wis 2, for what that's worth.

i find the slight bonus boost from carrying charged prayer beads beneficial at the cost of a free hand, and don't love the gp cost of gauntlets though i do love the burden reduction.

also note: while there are a wide variety of bonus-adjusting items there aren't many actual stat items. strap gloves and clompy boots are not stat items and you should be able to use them with charged prayer beads without the numbers getting complicated, unlike gauntlets or dex gloves, see:


unarmed aids and stuff on hands in general

according to research, knuckle-dusters do increase unarmed damage. not my research, i don't have any numbers on hand; the one thing i do know as confirmed is they decrease your other combat skills- fairly substantial bonus drop in both melee and ranged, though not bow. unarmed, defence, special, and points were unaffected). dusters are of course easily replaceable and require no babysitting, unlike certain other options. there may also be an overall benefit because the character has a duster on each hand, effectively raising damage on all punches, as opposed to tentacles which are only boosted on tentacle strikes, and paws where not all strikes are boosted.

i have been revisiting the leather-strap gloves and it's difficult to tell a difference aside from the added hand armour- supposedly they may not increase damage but may aid in specials. they do decrease melee bonus along the same lines as the dusters.

i had slightly more fun with iron gauntlets even though they have no direct effect on damage as kimo already has fairly high strength and again, hand armour. as for the clompy boots i really have no idea. i'm not sure anybody has come up with proven effects from those things. they're heavy too i think? i personally prefer armour boots or lighter-weight sheathe boots. again, there is a possibility that rather than damage they affect specials, but nobody's sure how.

as of this writing kimo is around guild level 240 so i haven't gone for the lion paws yet. paws have an edge on the squirming black tentacle in terms of damage while the latter is better than the paws against armour and trolls, because paws with claws out do intermittent sharp damage whereas tentacle is always blunt (there's a joke there somewhere, i'm sure). tentacle use may require high-ish fi.sp.ta.

the bottom line on unarmed aids and their efficacy continues to shift but here's the tldr; dusters and strap gloves are easy to acquire, the paws are a process due to the guild level and quest restriction, and the tentacle is prohibitively expensive for a noob. not many options! soz. it is what it is. you aren't here for toys, you're here to punch stuff. (full disclosure: i am not not here for toys.)

i also have not covered obbk (magic wizzie knucks) here because i have no magic but understand it's pretty sweet and possibly the highest and most consistently damage-boosting option. it is on the to do list. using unarmed with shields or unarmed parrying are also viable options but i have not tried them yet so can't comment.


healing stuff

tea is of course a staple (ask me if you need a new blackened canteen!) but in the long run i personally recommend whatever combination of bandage, cure light wounds, and healing roses is appropriate for your spec/faith. the xp investment for decent bandaging and rose plucking is lowish. up to 5 roses can be braided into hair with no additional burden and can be smelled in combat when unbraided, though you may fumble them if you try to rebraid while fighting. bandages can of course be produced on the go though may add some burden, bandaging is easy to TM at low levels and you can TM covert on the go when you combine it with abscond and hide. you can get special bandage containers or you can identify your bag of choice as "medicine bag" and automatically pull bandages from it when using the bandage command.


other stuff mostly relating to low burden

my personal favourite low-burden-spec bag is the ephebe thieves' black velvet bag. doesn't carry a metric ton, but it does carry a lot while keeping burden manageable, so long as you don't mind delooting a bit more frequently. check the ratios on back containers for more details, as well as other roomier options. i put coins and important things in a deluded black lacquer box in the bag- coins will weigh you down a lot and leave you a target for pickpockets, it's best to contain them somehow anyway. while high burden unarmed is definitely possible, it's not really recommended (though of course as a tentacle user i say whatever floats your boat, in the long run- as a wise witch once told me, you can even go with suboptimal). i admit to getting a mostly useless thrill whenever i manage to shed an item that gets my burden under 5%, but loaded down with loot and coin can run up to 16. according to the combat alerts, which i can never remember how to freaking find the toggle but will put here plus more data when i find somebody who remembers how, <5% is a sweet spot.

most armour is pretty heavy. i have heard the padded monk's robe is supposed to be good lightweight armour- an obvious but pricey option is the sea serpent scale which is lightweight, durable, and repairable by needle and thread but by no means the most protective option. steel-toed leather boots are a decently-weighted foot armour, though i tend to go for boots with sheathes- if you need to carry around a cutting edge the scalpel weighs the least- stompyboots from the AM cobbler (link later) containing one scalpel weigh 4/9lb- less in total than the sasswot graduate black ankle boots + a blade, and definitely less than the ninja purple ankle boots. will double check on the soft-soled boots with sheathes. white ankle boots weigh the same as cobbled boots.


so you've read all this and got all the things and have xp goals... now what?

idk! start small. what does any noob hunt when they can't even hit a roach straight out of pumpkintown? i honestly don't really remember. i think i blocked it out. do some quests, do some job missions. certain smaller towns and cities in the sto plains have exceptionally easy-to-kill npcs, or npcs that murder each other in cold blood and leave their stuff all over the place- collect it and sell it. ask nicely and find out if any of the groups running consider themselves newbie/new alt-safe- they do exist! get your health and perception up enough to a. join fights and b. not be immediately specialled into smithereens. if you feel like you can't hit anything you need more striking; if it feels like it takes forever to strike you need more tactics. actually whatever it is you probably need more tactics.

every darn tattoo including the one with the typo

Looking at yourself again? What a narcissist!


You see Well Travelled Kimo Kawaii the Hidden Serpent.

She is a horrible little monster.

This alleged adult human is about the size and shape of a child with elongated limbs. Her eyes are large and rather far apart, her black hair has a green shine to it, and her little mouth opens impossibly wide and is full of pointy little teeth. The overall effect is that of an imp or a goblin with long eyelashes. She often travels with a tentacle. Sometimes it wears a bow.

She is slightly hurt.

She is sitting on a bench.

Her back has Happy Monkey slaying a demon and a curtain of falling chrysanthemums tattooed on it.

Her right cheek and her left cheek have a cute pink dot tattooed on them.

Her navel has a nautilus shell tattooed on it.

Her right knuckles have KIMOCHI tattooed on them.

Her head has the questions to all the answers tattooed on it.

Her left knuckles have WARUI tattooed on them.

Her throat, her left palm and her right palm have a squid-like eye tattooed on them.

Her neck has chyrsanthemums dissolving into mist tattooed on it.

Her left hand and her right hand have blooming coral tattooed on them.

Her left ankle has a twined centipede anklet tattooed on it.

Her left leg, her left thigh, her right leg, her right kneecap, her left kneecap and her right thigh have blossoms sinking into deep water tattooed on them.

Her right ankle has a knotted hagfish anklet tattooed on it.

Her left hip, her right hip, her lower back, her right buttock, her abdomen and her left buttock have crashing ocean waves tattooed on them.

Her left foot and her right foot have things swimming in the deeps tattooed on them.

The skin around her right eye and the skin around her left eye have striking vermilion eyeliner tattooed on them.

Her forehead has a chrysanthemum blossom tattooed on it.

The small of her back, her left arm, her right arm and her chest have chrysanthemums falling into waves tattooed on them.

Her left breast, her right breast, her left shoulder and her right shoulder have falling chrysanthemums tattooed on them.

Her left wrist and her right wrist have shifting seafoam tattooed on them.

A mysterious opal stone floats around her head.

Her features have been artfully enhanced with ice white eyeshadow, a touch of shiny silver blusher and a dash of jet lipstick.

She has a withered bunch of rain-daisies neatly braided into her hair.

Her skin looks like it has been powdered with chalk, although the face seems not to be covered.

Her right arm has been replaced with a huge black tentacle.

Holding : a set of prayer beads (left hand).

Wearing : a pair of mirrored sunglasses, a moonstone ring, Gleaming Scale, a glittery sequin, a black gold ring and a club badge.

Carrying: a lilac silk chemise, a pair of white fishnet stockings, Scaly Minidress, a pair of raspberry pink stompyboots, a black velvet bag, a breath-taking pink and black suspender belt, a summer's night coat and a sheer black silk scarf. Her purse is tinkling with coins.