User:Datura
I guess I should have a page for the info I collect, whether it's for my own private info or to be added to the wiki. Or gathered from the wiki, for my own use.
I'll start with Quotid's chart on grinding quantities, as much for the formatting as for the info. Then we'll see what happens after that! Most of this will be info about witching. Some will be general measuring info, since I like to measure things. Some will be totally random, I'm sure!
I will move things around as I figure out how to use a personal page.
Contents
Grinding ingredients
Measurements of amounts of raw ingredients to the amount of ground ingredient they produce. WIP. Most of these were measured by Aberaven.
Ingredient | Qty | Unit | Pinches |
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Fennel | 1 | seed | 1 pinches |
Arachnid | 1 | spider | 20 pinches |
Borage | 1 | stalk | 5 pinches |
Basil | 1 | sprig | 50 pinches |
Ginger | 1 | chunk | 100 pinches |
Parsley | 1 | sprig | 50 pinches |
Sage | 1 | sprig | 50 pinches |
Yarrow | 1 | stalk | 50 pinches |
Comfrey | 1 | stalk | 50 pinches |
Floppy Madmen | 1 | mushroom | 200 pinches |
Wild Garlic | 1 | bulb | 16 pinches |
Garlic | 1 | bulb | 10 cloves |
Garlic | 1 | large clove | 24 pinches |
Garlic | 1 | medium clove | 16 pinches |
Garlic | 1 | small clove | 8 pinches |
Coffee | 1 | bean | 5 pinches |
Notes: Garlic bulbs usually consist of 10 cloves of varying sizes. I have to confirm my impression that dehydrated garlic bulbs have smaller cloves on average than fresh bulbs.
Coffee beans stay fresh indefinitely. Ground coffee will rot. For most other herbs, ground herbs stay fresh indefinitely, while the fresh ones rot. Fennel stays fresh whether it's ground or not.
Dried yarrow works perfectly well for Mother Twinter's Yarrow Enchantment.
I believe that dehydrated herbs can be ground. I know for sure that dehydrated garlic is grindable, and so is cured garlic.
Herbs tend to be continuous, so you can carry a lot without fumbling. Exceptions I know about are garlic bulbs, garlic cloves, chunks of ginger root, and spiders, all of which can be fumbled if you are carrying too many at one time. All ground herbs are continuous, as far as I know.
Herbs can be dried all at once. Garlic bulbs are dried one at a time, with the cloves happily inside. I'm not sure about individually carried cloves, but my guess is that they too have to be dried one at a time. I think it's the same with chunks of ginger root. You can cure herbs, too, I believe. Certainly garlic can be cured.
I know that spiders aren't herbs, but the above info applies to them once they are ground. I don't believe that spiders can be dehydrated since they are corpse parts.
Garlic fields of Klatch: In the spring, one can harvest large cloves from the fields near Ephebe (marked with green g). In Seedtime, one can harvest cloves in the fields near DJB (marked with white g). The fields NW of DJB yield small cloves and the fields SE of DJB yield medium cloves.
Research Notes
Feeding Bats
If one has a giant fruitbat, it will need to be fed. It eats fruit. It will not eat certain kinds of fruit. For example, they prefer not to eat things that are poisonous. There are some fruits which it will "hesitantly nibble", but those do seem to count as fruits for the purposes of keeping the bat fed.
It's usually easier to carry around bat food instead of going to get it each time the bat gets hungry. The fruit can be fresh, cured, or dehydrated. Most people cure or dehydrate fruit if they're not going to feed it to their bat immediately. Dehydration is done with the spell Mama Blackwing's Potent Preserver. Curing can be done with a pickling stick or by using a pickler in, say, a player shop. The Teapot has one.
The advantages of dried fruit are that it is lightweight. Also, it is quite possible to tm while performing the spell.
The advantages of cured fruit is that it will provide more meals for the bat. Also, you can buy fruit from stores (for example, melons when out of season). Pickling is faster than doing a spell, plus you won't need to know the spell with its mindspace requirements plus having to deal with the weight of the components needed for the spell.
If your bat is carrying its own food, it doesn't matter which method you choose. If you are carrying your bat's food, you probably want the best ratio of weight to number of feedings.
As far as I can tell, there is little or no relationship between how much you feed a bat and the time until it gets hungry again. There may well be some relationship, but it is not a hugely obvious one.
I am starting to weigh fruits, both sliced and unsliced, and count the number of feedings per fruit vs per slice. Eventually this will be a pretty chart.
If you want to have slices, slice cured fruit after it's cured, and dehydrated fruit before it's dehydrated (at least for smaller fruits). For most of the info below, I am assuming that the cured info is the same as the fresh info.
To slice a fruit, hold a knife and use the slice command.
All apples I've tried so far slice into two slices, and each slice is two bites for a bat.
All apples I've tried so far dehydrate down to 1/9 lb and are one bite. The slices I've dehydrate also dehydrate down to 1/9 lb and are one bite. Thus there is no real advantage to slicing apples before dehydrating.
Variety | Weight (whole) | Bites (whole) | Weight (half) | Bites (half) |
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Blackglass Peachface | 4/9 lb | 3 | 2/9 | 2 |
Bright red (poisonous) | n/a | n/a | ||
Gammer Smith | 4/9 lb | 3 | 2/9 | 2 |
Golden Disagreeable | 3/9 lb | 2 | 2/9 | 2 |
Green Billet (poisonous) | 2/9 lb | n/a | 1/9 | n/a |
Lancre Blackheart | 5/9 lb | 3 | 3/9 | 2 |
Nanny Ogg (rosy red) | 6/9 lb | 4 | 3/9 | 2 |
Red | 4/9 lb | 3 | 2/9 | 2 |
Small green (poisonous) | 2/9 lb | n/a | 1/9 | n/a |
Note that sometimes two apples halves will weigh more than the unsliced apple.
Sometimes the apple slices are consumed half and half. Sometimes not. The Golden Disagreeable goes 2/3, then the rest of the slice. The Blackheart does the opposite -- 1/3, then the rest of the apple.
Some of the halves can be sliced into quarters. The Gammer Smith and Lancre Blackheart apples each slice into quarters that weigh 1/9 lb. The Nanny Ogg apple quarters weigh 2/9 lb, but cannot be sliced into eighths. Each of these quarters (from all three apple varieties) is one bite. My guess is that most of the other apple halves that are 2/9 lb can be sliced into quarters, too. And same for other fruits.
All were weighed at the AM post office.
So... for a dehydrated apple, it doesn't matter what you do. They weigh 1/9 lb and offer one bite whether a whole or a half apple.
Halves of Blackglass Peachface, Golden Disagreeable, Gammer Smith, and Red apples weigh 2/9 lb and provide 2 bites per slice, which also gives the ratio of one bite per 1/9 lb.
Other fresh/cured apples, whole or sliced, offer a less favorable ratio.
For those who don't want to slice their apples after curing, you can decide if you care more about number of bites per item or per pound.
I have not yet weighed the bright red apples.
Other fruits
Fruit | Weight (whole) | Bites (whole) | Weight (half) | Bites (half) |
---|---|---|---|---|
ripe red raspberry | 1/9 lb | 1 | n/a | n/a |
banana | 3/9 lb | 2 | 2/9 | 2 |
fig (small?) | 1/9 lb | 1 | n/a | n/a |
large succulent fig | 2/9 lb | 2 | 1/9 | 1 |
lime | 3/9 lb | 2 | 2/9 | 2 |
orange | 1/9 lb | 1 | n/a | n/a |
grapefruit | 2/9 lb | 2 | 1/9 | 1 |
overripe plum | 1/9 lb | 1 | n/a | n/a |
ripe strawberry | 1/9 lb | 1 | n/a | n/a |
small grape | 1/9 lb | 1 | n/a | n/a |
passion fruit | 1/9 lb | 1 | n/a | n/a |
pineapple | 1-1/9 lb | 3 | 5/9 | not sure |
pomegranate | 5/9 lb | not sure | 3/9 | not sure |
All the above fruits can be sliced into two halves if they can be sliced at all. If a half is 2/9 lb or more, chances are it can be sliced in half again to make quarters.
Raspberries, oranges, overripe plums, small figs, ripe strawberries, small grapes, and passion fruit cannot be sliced.
Citrus fruit, grapes, pineapples, and figs are hesitantly nibbled but still eaten.
A few fruits are a bit buggy. They cannot be directly fed to the bat, but the bat will eat them if tempted. This includes passion fruit and pomegranates. I don't know how a tempted bite differs from a normal one.
Sometimes referring to fruit will include figs and citrus, while sometimes it won't.
(And I want to re-do the charts above so that the info is more intuitive and to add the info for quarters. Plus I want to check pineapples again because they're a little odd.)
In general, the most efficient bat food is 1/9 lb per bite, whether that is fresh, dehydrated, or cured, whole, or sliced.
Thread
Hmm, I accidentally noticed that the thread listings on the wiki are incomplete. This section is for listing colours until I decide how best to add them to the wiki.
For the shops that already have extensive listings, I'm just adding them to the wiki page under the correct shop.
The Genua needlwork shop, though, must have changed. Last time I checked, the prices were all 8,66 Gl. And there were some interesting colours, not just the ones listed on the wiki page.
So far, this is what I saw. I'll continue checking to see which are fixed and which are rotating (though it's probably pretty obvious that single-word boring colours are fixed and the interesting colours are rotating)
AP: a spool of yellow thread for 8,66Gl (eleven left). AQ: a spool of grey thread for 8,66Gl (eleven left). AR: a spool of black thread for 8,66Gl (eleven left). AS: a spool of green thread for 8,66Gl (twelve left). AT: a spool of white thread for 8,66Gl (eight left). AU: a spool of red thread for 8,66Gl (nine left). AV: a spool of orange thread for 8,66Gl (eleven left). AW: a spool of ivory thread for 8,66Gl (eleven left). AX: a spool of bright red thread for 8,66Gl (eight left). AY: a spool of cream thread for 8,66Gl (nine left). AZ: a spool of mauve thread for 8,66Gl (ten left). BA: a spool of deep red thread for 8,66Gl (nine left). BB: a spool of blue thread for 8,66Gl (nine left). BC: a spool of ash grey thread for 8,66Gl (eleven left).
My predictions for fixed will be yellow, grey, black, green, white, red, orange, and blue. I'm not sure about cream or ivory.
I will check thread shops on a semi-regular basis for a while to see what there is.
Here's the start of a new chart for the Genua Haberdashery. I'll add it to the correct page when it's more complete. I'm leaving the old colours where they are in the chart, but will change the money amount when I confirm that the shop carries them.
There's something really wrong about the chart on the thread page, too. When I click on the little sortable arrow things, Bad Things happen to the sub-headings. Oh, well, I don't plan to fix it.
Colour | Shop | Price | Availability |
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Genua haberdashery |
|||
ash grey | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | rotating? |
black | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed |
blue | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed |
bright red | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | rotating? |
brown | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
cerise | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
cerulean | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
cream | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed? |
crimson | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
cyan | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
deep red | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | rotating? |
fuchsia | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
gold | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
green | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed |
grey | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed |
indigo | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
ivory | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed? |
maroon | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
mauve | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | rotating? |
orange | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed |
pink | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
red | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed |
sienna | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
silver | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
tan | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
tangerine | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
violet | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&&+480 1,60Gl | fixed |
white | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed |
yellow | Genua haberdashery | &&&&&&&&&&&+2598 8,66Gl | fixed |
Other sets of things
I'm not sure what will go here yet. Possibly wax crayons for now, which apparent come in interesting colours.
This is a lovely wax crayon, really bright and shiny, just perfect
for writing anything you like! It's been wrapped in neat white paper to keep
your hands clean while you use it. Well, slightly grubby and tattered greyish
paper, really. But the thought is there.
Colours I've seen so far:
a pastel pink crayon, a candyfloss pink crayon, a Reality rose crayon, a marmalade orange crayon, a deep red crayon, a black and midnight crayon, a white crayon, an orange crayon, a red crayon, a green crayon, a brown crayon and a yellow crayon.
Siel silver, a sparkly amber crayon, a lettuce green crayon, a black and midnight crayon, a cherry red crayon, a bright pink crayon, a brown crayon, a blue crayon, an orange crayon, an indigo crayon, a red crayon and a black crayon.