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To slice a fruit, hold a knife and use the slice command.
 
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I have not yet weighed the bright red apples.
 
I have not yet weighed the bright red apples.
  
Now on to other fruits!
 
  
(And I want to re-do the chart above so that the info is more intuitive)
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Other fruits
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{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
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! Fruit !! Weight (whole) !! Bites (whole) !! Weight (half) !! Bites (half)
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|ripe red raspberry || 1/9 lb || 1 || n/a || n/a
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|banana || 3/9 lb || 2 || 2/9 || 2
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|fig (small?) || 1/9 lb || 1 || n/a || n/a
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|large succulent fig || 2/9 lb || 2 || 1/9 || 1
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|lime || 3/9 lb || 2 || 2/9 || 2
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|orange || 1/9 lb || 1 || n/a || n/a
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|grapefruit || 2/9 lb || 2 || 1/9 || 1
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All the above fruits can be sliced into two halves if they can be sliced at all. Raspberries, oranges, and small figs cannot be sliced.  Citrus fruit and figs are hesitantly nibbled but still eaten.
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Sometimes referring to fruit will include figs and citrus, while sometimes it won't.
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(And I want to re-do the charts above so that the info is more intuitive)
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In general, the most efficient bat food is 1/9 lb per bite, whether that is fresh, dehydrated, or cured, whole, or sliced.

Revision as of 13:56, 21 January 2016

I guess I should have a page for the info I collect, whether it's for my own private info or to be added to the wiki. Or gathered from the wiki, for my own use.

I'll start with Quotid's chart on grinding quantities, as much for the formatting as for the info. Then we'll see what happens after that! Most of this will be info about witching. Some will be general measuring info, since I like to measure things. Some will be totally random, I'm sure!

I will move things around as I figure out how to use a personal page.

Grinding ingredients

Measurements of amounts of raw ingredients to the amount of ground ingredient they produce. WIP. Most of these were measured by Aberaven.

Ingredient Qty Unit Pinches
Fennel 1 seed 1 pinches
Arachnid 1 spider 20 pinches
Borage 1 stalk 5 pinches
Basil 1 sprig 50 pinches
Ginger 1 chunk 100 pinches
Parsley 1 sprig 50 pinches
Sage 1 sprig 50 pinches
Yarrow 1 stalk 50 pinches
Comfrey 1 stalk 50 pinches
Floppy Madmen 1 mushroom 200 pinches
Wild Garlic 1 bulb 16 pinches
Garlic 1 bulb 10 cloves
Garlic 1 large clove 24 pinches
Garlic 1 medium clove 16 pinches
Garlic 1 small clove 8 pinches
Coffee 1 bean 5 pinches

Notes: Garlic bulbs usually consist of 10 cloves of varying sizes. I have to confirm my impression that dehydrated garlic bulbs have smaller cloves on average than fresh bulbs.

Coffee beans stay fresh indefinitely. Ground coffee will rot. For most other herbs, ground herbs stay fresh indefinitely, while the fresh ones rot. Fennel stays fresh whether it's ground or not.

Dried yarrow works perfectly well for Mother Twinter's Yarrow Enchantment.

I believe that dehydrated herbs can be ground. I know for sure that dehydrated garlic is grindable, and so is cured garlic.

Herbs tend to be continuous, so you can carry a lot without fumbling. Exceptions I know about are garlic bulbs, garlic cloves, chunks of ginger root, and spiders, all of which can be fumbled if you are carrying too many at one time. All ground herbs are continuous, as far as I know.

Herbs can be dried all at once. Garlic bulbs are dried one at a time, with the cloves happily inside. I'm not sure about individually carried cloves, but my guess is that they too have to be dried one at a time. I think it's the same with chunks of ginger root. You can cure herbs, too, I believe. Certainly garlic can be cured.

I know that spiders aren't herbs, but the above info applies to them once they are ground. I don't believe that spiders can be dehydrated since they are corpse parts.

Feeding Bats

If one has a giant fruitbat, it will need to be fed. It eats fruit. It will not eat certain kinds of fruit. For example, they prefer not to eat things that are poisonous, and I believe they prefer not to eat citrus. (I need to doublecheck that)

It's usually easier to carry around bat food instead of going to get it each time the bat gets hungry. The fruit can be fresh, cured, or dehydrated. Most people cure or dehydrate fruit if they're not going to feed it to their bat immediately. Dehydration is done with the spell Mama Blackwing's Potent Preserver. Curing can be done with a pickling stick or by using a pickler in, say, a player shop. The Teapot has one.

The advantages of dried fruit are that it is lightweight. Also, it is quite possible to tm while performing the spell.

The advantages of cured fruit is that it will provide more meals for the bat. Also, you can buy fruit from stores (for example, melons when out of season). Pickling is faster than doing a spell, plus you won't need to know the spell with its mindspace requirements plus having to deal with the weight of the components needed for the spell.

If your bat is carrying its own food, it doesn't matter which method you choose. If you are carrying your bat's food, you probably want the best ratio of weight to number of feedings.

As far as I can tell, there is little or no relationship between how much you feed a bat and the time until it gets hungry again. There may well be some relationship, but it is not a hugely obvious one.

I am starting to weigh fruits, both sliced and unsliced, and count the number of feedings per fruit vs per slice. Eventually this will be a pretty chart.

If you want to have slices, slice cured fruit after it's cured, and dehydrated fruit before it's dehydrated (at least for smaller fruits). For most of the info below, I am assuming that the cured info is the same as the fresh info.

To slice a fruit, hold a knife and use the slice command.


Apple

All apples I've tried so far slice into two slices, and each slice is two bites for a bat.

All apples I've tried so far dehydrate down to 1/9 lb and are one bite. The slices I've dehydrate also dehydrate down to 1/9 lb and are one bite. Thus there is no real advantage to slicing apples before dehydrating.


Variety Weight (whole) Bites (whole) Weight (half) Bites (half)
Blackglass Peachface 4/9 lb 3 2/9 2
Bright red (poisonous) n/a n/a
Gammer Smith 4/9 lb 3 2/9 2
Golden Disagreeable 3/9 lb 2 2/9 2
Green Billet (poisonous) 2/9 lb n/a 1/9 n/a
Lancre Blackheart 5/9 lb 3 3/9 2
Nanny Ogg (rosy red) 6/9 lb 4 3/9 2
Red 4/9 lb 3 2/9 2
Small green (poisonous) 2/9 lb n/a 1/9 n/a

Note that sometimes two apples halves will weigh more than the unsliced apple.

Sometimes the apple slices are consumed half and half. Sometimes not. The Golden Disagreeable goes 2/3, then the rest of the slice. The Blackheart does the opposite -- 1/3, then the rest of the apple.

All were weighed at the AM post office.


So... for a dehydrated apple, it doesn't matter what you do. They weigh 1/9 lb and offer one bite whether a whole or a half apple.


Slices of Blackglass Peachface, Golden Disagreeable, Gammer Smith, and Red apples weigh 2/9 lb and provide 2 bites per slice, which also gives the ratio of one bite per 1/9 lb.

Other fresh/cured apples, whole or sliced, offer a less favorable ratio.

For those who don't want to slice their apples after curing, you can decide if you care more about number of bites per item or per pound.

I have not yet weighed the bright red apples.


Other fruits

Fruit Weight (whole) Bites (whole) Weight (half) Bites (half)
ripe red raspberry 1/9 lb 1 n/a n/a
banana 3/9 lb 2 2/9 2
fig (small?) 1/9 lb 1 n/a n/a
large succulent fig 2/9 lb 2 1/9 1
lime 3/9 lb 2 2/9 2
orange 1/9 lb 1 n/a n/a
grapefruit 2/9 lb 2 1/9 1


All the above fruits can be sliced into two halves if they can be sliced at all. Raspberries, oranges, and small figs cannot be sliced. Citrus fruit and figs are hesitantly nibbled but still eaten.

Sometimes referring to fruit will include figs and citrus, while sometimes it won't.


(And I want to re-do the charts above so that the info is more intuitive)

In general, the most efficient bat food is 1/9 lb per bite, whether that is fresh, dehydrated, or cured, whole, or sliced.