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A '''retrophrenologist''' is an npc who can permanently change your [[stats]].  One service they provide is increasing a stat by one point while decreasing a different stat by one point.  This is known as retroing, and can be done multiple times.
 
A '''retrophrenologist''' is an npc who can permanently change your [[stats]].  One service they provide is increasing a stat by one point while decreasing a different stat by one point.  This is known as retroing, and can be done multiple times.
 
They also handle rearranging.
 
  
 
==Retroing==
 
==Retroing==
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Saying "help" gets their attention; after that you may have to say "yes" multiple times.  They will ask you which stat you want to decrease and which one you want to increase, then tell you how much it will cost and ask you to confirm.
 
Saying "help" gets their attention; after that you may have to say "yes" multiple times.  They will ask you which stat you want to decrease and which one you want to increase, then tell you how much it will cost and ask you to confirm.
  
After you confirm, they'll take your money and perform the operation.  This will leave you [[unconscious]] for a few minutes and with severe temporary penalties to ''all'' of your stats for some time after that.  Notably, your lowered strength is likely to cause you to drop anything you aren't wearing (including money), so you should put everything besides the retrophrenologist's fee in worn containers if you don't want to drop it.  The stat penalties last a while, although the [[Restore]] ritual can fix it.
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After you confirm, they'll take your money and perform the operation.  This will leave you [[unconscious]] for a few minutes and with severe temporary penalties to ''all'' of your stats for some time after that.  Notably, your lowered strength is likely to cause you to drop anything you aren't wearing (including money), so you should put everything besides the retrophrenologist's fee in worn containers if you don't want to drop it.  The stat penalties last a while, although the [[Restore]] ritual can fix it. You can be restored before you regain consciousness, so it is worthwhile to contact a Pishite before getting knocked out.
  
 
===Cost===
 
===Cost===
It costs {{Dollars|$100}} for your first time.  If you wait at least twenty weeks<ref>In real time, not Disc time.</ref> between visits, then subsequent visits will increase in cost by {{Dollars|$100}} each time--so the second time will cost {{Dollars|$200}}, the third time will cost {{Dollars|$300}}, and so on.
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The base cost is {{Dollars|$100}} multiplied by the total number of retrophrenology moves you've made in total - so your first move would be {{Dollars|$100}}, the second would be {{Dollars|$200}}, the third {{Dollars|$300}} etc. - however, there is a premium for making multiple moves in a short space of time.
  
However, if you want to retro another point sooner than that, it will cost ''much'' more--for example, if you want to retro another point immediately after your very first visit, this will cost {{Dollars|$14100}}, and if you've had more than one point retroed in the past, the extra cost is even greater.  This goes down over time, so waiting ten weeks will get you a lower price than doing it again immediately, though still much more than if you had waited the full twenty weeks.
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Whenever you pay for a move, the price for the NEXT move is immediately set to {{Dollars|$14100}} multiplied by the total moves you've made... so immediately following your first move, a 2nd move would cost you {{Dollars|$14100}}. Immediately following your second move, the price of a 3rd move would be {{Dollars|$28200}}... a 4th move would be {{Dollars|$42300}}, then {{Dollars|$56400}} etc.
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However, the price will drop by {{Dollars|$100}} multiplied by the total moves you've made, every real-time roundworld day. So after your very first retro visit, it would take 140 roundworld days (or 20 weeks) for the price to drop by {{Dollars|$100}} a day from {{Dollars|$14100}} to the new base price of {{Dollars|$200}}.  If you then purchased a 2nd move at this price, the cost for a 3rd move would immediately jump to {{Dollars|$28200}}, and would then drop by {{Dollars|$200}} every roundworld day, again taking 140 roundworld days.
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In short, if you want the cheapest possible moves, you will need to wait 140 roundworld days between each every move to only ever pay the "base cost", which for a total of 5 moves would cost {{Dollars|$1500}} and take 560 days, or 80 weeks to do.  But there is nothing other than price stopping you doing all fives moves in the same day - which would cost you {{Dollars|$141100}}.
  
 
==Rearranging==
 
==Rearranging==
If you have not rearranged yet, you can go to a retrophrenologist and say "rearrange" to start the process.  This lets you change your stats according to your preferences, with some restrictions: a stat may not be less than 8 or greater than 23, and all your stats can add up to at most 65.
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If you have not rearranged yet, you can go to a retrophrenologist and say "rearrange" to start the process.  This lets you change your stats according to your preferences, with some restrictions: a stat may not be less than 8 or greater than 23, and all your stats can add up to at most 65.  As you must "say rearrange", pay attention to the language you are using. 60 levels in the retrophrenologist's language seems to be enough.
  
 
This is free, but you may only do it once.  It's therefore advisable to make sure you know what you're doing first, since your rearrange affects all your skills, your regeneration rates for [[gp]] and [[hp]], the amount you can carry, and other things.
 
This is free, but you may only do it once.  It's therefore advisable to make sure you know what you're doing first, since your rearrange affects all your skills, your regeneration rates for [[gp]] and [[hp]], the amount you can carry, and other things.
  
As with retroing, you will end up unconscious and with penalties to all your stats afterwards, but the penalties aren't nearly as severe as they are after retroing<ref>Either -1 to all or -2 to all.</ref>.
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Unlike retroing, you will not end up unconscious when you rearrange, nor will you suffer penalties to your stats. It is no longer necessary to go to a retrophrenologist in order to rearrange, and all newbies start with the [[rearrange]] command.
  
 
==Locations==
 
==Locations==
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*Ptricka-ptreat's house of retrophrenology is on Ephebe Road in [[Djelibeybi]], near its northeast end.
 
*Ptricka-ptreat's house of retrophrenology is on Ephebe Road in [[Djelibeybi]], near its northeast end.
 
*Ral-Fee's Retro-Spa is on Onetwolong Avenue in [[Bes Pelargic]] (running along the southern edge of the city on the west side).
 
*Ral-Fee's Retro-Spa is on Onetwolong Avenue in [[Bes Pelargic]] (running along the southern edge of the city on the west side).
*A tent in the North-West of the [[Oasis]] (for Ephebian speakers) although at time of writing then NPC is run-timing and although the tent loads, it can not be used for re-arranging.
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*Vinred's tent in the North-West of the [[Oasis]] where Ephebian speakers can get an initial rearrange.
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==Notes==
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Attacking/attempting to kill a retrophrenologist NPC anywhere, will cause ALL retrophrenologists across the Disc to all hate you.  Attempting to enter any Retrophrenologist room anywhere afterwards will cause you to be immediately knocked unconscious for 5 roundworld minutes, and thrown to the outside room.  This effect lasts an unknown (currently) amount of time, but at least several months (?).
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Attempting to get a killing blow on a retrophrenologist will cause them to steal all of your money - all coins on you, all coins in any container on you, regardless of how much you have, with no way to retrieve the money afterwards.
  
 
==See also==
 
==See also==
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==External links==
 
==External links==
*[http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/blog/blog.c?action=filter&blog=recent%20developments&id=275 Blog post mentioning changes to retrophrenologists]
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*{{Devblog|275 Blog post mentioning changes to retrophrenologists}}
 
*[http://bonuses.irreducible.org/index.php Site with bonus calculators and other stat-related information and advice]
 
*[http://bonuses.irreducible.org/index.php Site with bonus calculators and other stat-related information and advice]
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*[http://www.soullesscalc.com/calculator.html Edgar's skill synergy calculator]
  
 
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[[Category:Facilities]]

Latest revision as of 06:47, 7 May 2021

A retrophrenologist is an npc who can permanently change your stats. One service they provide is increasing a stat by one point while decreasing a different stat by one point. This is known as retroing, and can be done multiple times.

Retroing

If you're not happy with your current stat arrangement, and you have already rearranged (or don't want to yet), you can get a retrophrenologist to permanently move a point from one stat to another. You can't make a stat (permanently) lower than 8 or higher than 23 this way.

Saying "help" gets their attention; after that you may have to say "yes" multiple times. They will ask you which stat you want to decrease and which one you want to increase, then tell you how much it will cost and ask you to confirm.

After you confirm, they'll take your money and perform the operation. This will leave you unconscious for a few minutes and with severe temporary penalties to all of your stats for some time after that. Notably, your lowered strength is likely to cause you to drop anything you aren't wearing (including money), so you should put everything besides the retrophrenologist's fee in worn containers if you don't want to drop it. The stat penalties last a while, although the Restore ritual can fix it. You can be restored before you regain consciousness, so it is worthwhile to contact a Pishite before getting knocked out.

Cost

The base cost is &&&&&&&&&&+40000 $100 multiplied by the total number of retrophrenology moves you've made in total - so your first move would be &&&&&&&&&&+40000 $100, the second would be &&&&&&&&&&+80000 $200, the third &&&&&&&&&+120000 $300 etc. - however, there is a premium for making multiple moves in a short space of time.

Whenever you pay for a move, the price for the NEXT move is immediately set to &&&&&&&&+5640000 $14100 multiplied by the total moves you've made... so immediately following your first move, a 2nd move would cost you &&&&&&&&+5640000 $14100. Immediately following your second move, the price of a 3rd move would be &&&&&&&+11280000 $28200... a 4th move would be &&&&&&&+16920000 $42300, then &&&&&&&+22560000 $56400 etc.

However, the price will drop by &&&&&&&&&&+40000 $100 multiplied by the total moves you've made, every real-time roundworld day. So after your very first retro visit, it would take 140 roundworld days (or 20 weeks) for the price to drop by &&&&&&&&&&+40000 $100 a day from &&&&&&&&+5640000 $14100 to the new base price of &&&&&&&&&&+80000 $200. If you then purchased a 2nd move at this price, the cost for a 3rd move would immediately jump to &&&&&&&+11280000 $28200, and would then drop by &&&&&&&&&&+80000 $200 every roundworld day, again taking 140 roundworld days.

In short, if you want the cheapest possible moves, you will need to wait 140 roundworld days between each every move to only ever pay the "base cost", which for a total of 5 moves would cost &&&&&&&&&+600000 $1500 and take 560 days, or 80 weeks to do. But there is nothing other than price stopping you doing all fives moves in the same day - which would cost you &&&&&&&+56440000 $141100.

Rearranging

If you have not rearranged yet, you can go to a retrophrenologist and say "rearrange" to start the process. This lets you change your stats according to your preferences, with some restrictions: a stat may not be less than 8 or greater than 23, and all your stats can add up to at most 65. As you must "say rearrange", pay attention to the language you are using. 60 levels in the retrophrenologist's language seems to be enough.

This is free, but you may only do it once. It's therefore advisable to make sure you know what you're doing first, since your rearrange affects all your skills, your regeneration rates for gp and hp, the amount you can carry, and other things.

Unlike retroing, you will not end up unconscious when you rearrange, nor will you suffer penalties to your stats. It is no longer necessary to go to a retrophrenologist in order to rearrange, and all newbies start with the rearrange command.

Locations

  • Zorgo the Retrophrenologist sets up shop in Ankh-Morpork, in the Isle of Gods.
  • Mr Ralph Womblefluff in Ohulan Cutash has his operating room on Long Alley.
  • Ptricka-ptreat's house of retrophrenology is on Ephebe Road in Djelibeybi, near its northeast end.
  • Ral-Fee's Retro-Spa is on Onetwolong Avenue in Bes Pelargic (running along the southern edge of the city on the west side).
  • Vinred's tent in the North-West of the Oasis where Ephebian speakers can get an initial rearrange.

Notes

Attacking/attempting to kill a retrophrenologist NPC anywhere, will cause ALL retrophrenologists across the Disc to all hate you. Attempting to enter any Retrophrenologist room anywhere afterwards will cause you to be immediately knocked unconscious for 5 roundworld minutes, and thrown to the outside room. This effect lasts an unknown (currently) amount of time, but at least several months (?).

Attempting to get a killing blow on a retrophrenologist will cause them to steal all of your money - all coins on you, all coins in any container on you, regardless of how much you have, with no way to retrieve the money afterwards.

See also

Footnotes


External links