Research:Quilting block

Damage and number of blocks

It seems that damage does dictate the number of blocks (or strips) you can tear something up into.

The red-brown smock (1) is in very good condition.
The yellow smock (2) is in decent condition.
>tear smock test
The yellow smock would divide up into 3 strips and 1 quilting blocks.
>tear smock 2 test
The red-brown smock would divide up into 4 strips and 1 quilting blocks.
>sew smock
You pull a grey cotton thread from the thread spool.
You thread the small silver needle with a grey cotton thread.
You neatly stitch the yellow smock up with the small silver needle.  The yellow smock looks as good as new.
>sew red-brown smock
You pull a grey cotton thread from the thread spool.
You thread the small silver needle with a grey cotton thread.
You stitch the red-brown smock up with the small silver needle.  The red-brown smock looks as good as new.
>tear smock test
The red-brown smock would divide up into 5 strips and 2 quilting blocks.
>tear smock 2 test
The yellow smock would divide up into 5 strips and 2 quilting blocks.
>tb smock
You tear the red-brown smock into two quilting blocks.
>tb smock
You tear the yellow smock into two quilting blocks.

(I'm assuming that "tear x test" is accurate for things you can actually tear up, as far as this goes, even though it sometimes indicates that you can tear something up when you actually can't.)

Anyone else think it would be a good idea to just list the maximum blocks you can get from an item?

--Ilde 00:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I concur --Groth

Um... hm. Okay, I guess that may not be the entire picture. Twice, now, I've encountered an item that didn't yield the expected number of blocks, despite being in apparently perfect condition. I started with three moon dragon shirts...

men shirt
You pull a yellow cotton thread from the thread spool.
You thread the small silver needle with a yellow cotton thread.
One of the moon dragon shirts doesn't need to be mended.
mdc shirt 2
You neatly stitch one of the moon dragon shirts up with the small silver needle.  One of the moon dragon shirts looks as good as new.
men shirt 3
You pull a yellow cotton thread from the thread spool.
You thread the small silver needle with a yellow cotton thread.
You neatly stitch one of the moon dragon shirts up with the small silver needle.  One of the moon dragon shirts looks as good as new.
tb shirt
You tear one of the moon dragon shirts into three quilting blocks.
You drop three golden orange cotton quilting blocks.
tb shirt
You tear the rich red moon dragon shirt into four quilting blocks.
You drop four rich red cotton quilting blocks.
tb shirt
You tear the grass yellow moon dragon shirt into four quilting blocks.
You drop four grass yellow cotton quilting blocks.

So, as far as I can tell, the golden orange one wasn't the least bit damaged (either it was one I mended up to look as good as new, or it didn't need to be mended), and yet it only gave three blocks. Either there's some randomness and/or a skillcheck to determine how many blocks you can get from a particular item with a particular condition, or damage and mending doesn't work the way it seems to, and something can be very slightly damaged without being mendable.

--Ilde 23:25, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Condition doesn't show objects that are very slightly damaged, you can try to mend an item and succeed even if it didn't look damaged. For fix and leatherwork you can fix/leatherwork cost each item to find some that can be fix a tiny bit. For mend you need to try to mend I guess. --Frazyl 06:22, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, sure--but there are also times where an item (like the moon dragon shirt) can't be mended with needle and thread (it says it doesn't need to be mended if I try) but still only yields three blocks. Not sure if using Gapp's altar/the mend ritual would have the same results. So now I'm wondering if there is a small gap between "absolutely perfect condition" and "good enough condition you can't mend it", where something can be very very slightly damaged but not mendable. Or if something else is going on here. --Ilde 03:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Such is true for smithable items. For instance, one can have a ring or such that says excellent condition (and does not show up as damaged), but can still be fixed in a smithy for a pence or so. --Groth (too lazy to log on)

Yes, I know that "excellent condition" is a range and that things in that range can still be a little bit damaged, etc etc etc. I'm not talking about whether it says it's in excellent condition or not.

This is what I'm talking about:

mend jacket with needle
The elegant blue-grey suit jacket doesn't need to be mended.

The bit where it says it "doesn't need to be mended". It actually stops me from mending it with needle and thread--it's in good enough condition that it's impossible to use the mend verb on it ().

Again, I'm not talking about whether it says "excellent condition"; I know things can be mendable/fixable/etc before they get all the way down to "very good".

What I'm wondering is if there's perhaps a minimum amount something has to be damaged before the mend verb can be used on it. If, for example, condition might have to be down to 98% before you can mend it, and you can't mend it at 99% (but 99% is still very slightly damaged).

--Ilde 19:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Applique patterns and results

Simple Applique Shapes for Beginners

bonuses	shape	description
152-165	square	ineptly cut square
146-154, 267	square	neatly cut square
152	square	carefully cut square
146-165, 267	square	delicately cut square
146-165, 267	square	intricately cut square
146-165, 267	square	deftly cut square
154, 267	square	expertly cut square
158-165	diamond	lopsided diamond
152-165	diamond	uneven diamond
152-165, 267	diamond	diamond
152-165, 267	diamond	neatly cut diamond
154-165, 267	diamond	pointy diamond
146-154	triangle	uneven triangle
146-165, 267	triangle	simple triangle
152-165, 267	triangle	large triangle
146-152	triangle	triangle
154-165, 267	triangle	neatly cut triangle
146-165	circle	lopsided oval
146-165, 267	circle	small circle
146-165, 267	circle	delicately cut circle
146-165	circle	perfect circle
146-157	love heart	lopsided love heart
146-154	love heart	simple love heart
146-173, 267	love heart	large love heart
146-173, 267	love heart	love heart
154	love heart	cute love heart
146-159	crescent moon	crooked crescent
146-173, 267	crescent moon	large crescent moon
146-173, 267	crescent moon	neatly cut crescent moon
159-173	crescent moon	mystical crescent moon
143	octagon	lopsided octagon
146	octagon	roughly cut octagon
142-173	octagon	crooked octagon
142-173, 267	octagon	large octagon
142-173, 267	octagon	octagon
143-165, 267	octagon	beautifully cut octagon
154	octagon	expertly cut octagon
142	star	deformed star
142-157	star	frayed star
154-165	star	poorly cut star
154-173	star	crooked star
154-173	star	simple star
165-173, 267	star	star
267	star	large star

A Lancrastian Quilt

bonuses	shape	Result
163	witch's hat	triangle
163-173	witch's hat	crooked hat
154-173	witch's hat	small pointy hat
154-204, 267	witch's hat	pointy hat
154-204, 267	witch's hat	pointy witch's hat
204	witch's hat	imposing pointy witch's hat
154-173	jester's hat	crooked hat
163-205	jester's hat	crooked jester's hat
163-205, 267	jester's hat	jester's hat
154-205	jester's hat	small jester's hat
205, 267	jester's hat	large jester's hat

An introduction to patchwork quilting

bonuses	shape	Result
267	daisy	neatly cut daisy
267	daisy	lovely daisy

Applique Patterns for Intermediate and Expert Quilters

bonuses	shape	Result
168-173	mountain	frayed mountain
174-175	mountain	unevenly cut mountain
154-175, 267	mountain	pointy mountain
154-175, 267	mountain	jagged mountain
168-175	mountain	mountain
170-175	mountain	small mountain
173-174, 267	mountain	craggy mountain
154-175	cauldron	bumpy cauldron
154-175	cauldron	stout cauldron
154-175	cauldron	simple cauldron
168-175, 267	cauldron	cauldron
173-175, 267	cauldron	large cauldron
267	cauldron	mysterious cauldron
154-175	cottage	ugly cottage
154-175	cottage	crooked cottage
168-175	cottage	simple cottage
170-175, 267	cottage	cosy cottage
267	cottage	detailed cottage
154-175	bear	malformed bear
154-175	bear	distorted bear
267	bear	small bear
267	bear	bear
267	bear	large bear
267	bear	lively bear
168-170	wolf	amateurish dog
154-175	wolf	ugly wolf
253	wolf	distorted wolf
253-267	wolf	small wolf
253-267	wolf	wolf
253-267	wolf	large wolf
267	wolf	snarling wolf
154-175, 267	tree	strange tree
170-175, 267	tree	ugly tree

Loose patterns

Individual patterns can sometimes be found in mystery bags of quilting supplies in the needlework shop on Loom Alley in Ankh-Morpork.

bonuses	shape	Result
154 - 160	butterfly	lopsided butterfly
154 - 176	butterfly	butterfly
160 - 176	butterfly	small butterfly
176	butterfly	dainty butterfly
159	cherry	twisted cherry
159-175	cherry	lopsided cherry
159	cherry	simple cherry
159-175	cherry	cheery cherry
159-175	cherry	charming cherry
175	cherry	elegant cherry
160-176	fish	crooked fish
160-176	fish	lively fish
160-176	fish	cheerful fish
173-175	fleur-de-lis	distorted triangle
173-175	fleur-de-lis	ugly flower
160	frog	deformed frog
176	horse	ugly donkey
176	horse	deformed horse
160-175	knotwork	rectangle
184	rat	ugly rat
160-176	rose	ugly flower
160-176	rose	bent rose