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Damage and number of blocks

It seems that damage does dictate the number of blocks (or strips) you can tear something up into.

The red-brown smock (1) is in very good condition.
The yellow smock (2) is in decent condition.
>tear smock test
The yellow smock would divide up into 3 strips and 1 quilting blocks.
>tear smock 2 test
The red-brown smock would divide up into 4 strips and 1 quilting blocks.
>sew smock
You pull a grey cotton thread from the thread spool.
You thread the small silver needle with a grey cotton thread.
You neatly stitch the yellow smock up with the small silver needle.  The yellow smock looks as good as new.
>sew red-brown smock
You pull a grey cotton thread from the thread spool.
You thread the small silver needle with a grey cotton thread.
You stitch the red-brown smock up with the small silver needle.  The red-brown smock looks as good as new.
>tear smock test
The red-brown smock would divide up into 5 strips and 2 quilting blocks.
>tear smock 2 test
The yellow smock would divide up into 5 strips and 2 quilting blocks.
>tb smock
You tear the red-brown smock into two quilting blocks.
>tb smock
You tear the yellow smock into two quilting blocks.

(I'm assuming that "tear x test" is accurate for things you can actually tear up, as far as this goes, even though it sometimes indicates that you can tear something up when you actually can't.)

Anyone else think it would be a good idea to just list the maximum blocks you can get from an item?

--Ilde 00:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I concur --Groth

Um... hm. Okay, I guess that may not be the entire picture. Twice, now, I've encountered an item that didn't yield the expected number of blocks, despite being in apparently perfect condition. I started with three moon dragon shirts...
men shirt
You pull a yellow cotton thread from the thread spool.
You thread the small silver needle with a yellow cotton thread.
One of the moon dragon shirts doesn't need to be mended.
mdc shirt 2
You neatly stitch one of the moon dragon shirts up with the small silver needle.  One of the moon dragon shirts looks as good as new.
men shirt 3
You pull a yellow cotton thread from the thread spool.
You thread the small silver needle with a yellow cotton thread.
You neatly stitch one of the moon dragon shirts up with the small silver needle.  One of the moon dragon shirts looks as good as new.
tb shirt
You tear one of the moon dragon shirts into three quilting blocks.
You drop three golden orange cotton quilting blocks.
tb shirt
You tear the rich red moon dragon shirt into four quilting blocks.
You drop four rich red cotton quilting blocks.
tb shirt
You tear the grass yellow moon dragon shirt into four quilting blocks.
You drop four grass yellow cotton quilting blocks.
So, as far as I can tell, the golden orange one wasn't the least bit damaged (either it was one I mended up to look as good as new, or it didn't need to be mended), and yet it only gave three blocks. Either there's some randomness and/or a skillcheck to determine how many blocks you can get from a particular item with a particular condition, or damage and mending doesn't work the way it seems to, and something can be very slightly damaged without being mendable.
--Ilde 23:25, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Condition doesn't show objects that are very slightly damaged, you can try to mend an item and succeed even if it didn't look damaged. For fix and leatherwork you can fix/leatherwork cost each item to find some that can be fix a tiny bit. For mend you need to try to mend I guess. --Frazyl 06:22, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh, sure--but there are also times where an item (like the moon dragon shirt) can't be mended with needle and thread (it says it doesn't need to be mended if I try) but still only yields three blocks. Not sure if using Gapp's altar/the mend ritual would have the same results. So now I'm wondering if there is a small gap between "absolutely perfect condition" and "good enough condition you can't mend it", where something can be very very slightly damaged but not mendable. Or if something else is going on here. --Ilde 03:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Such is true for smithable items. For instance, one can have a ring or such that says excellent condition (and does not show up as damaged), but can still be fixed in a smithy for a pence or so. --Groth (too lazy to log on)
Yes, I know that "excellent condition" is a range and that things in that range can still be a little bit damaged, etc etc etc. I'm not talking about whether it says it's in excellent condition or not.
This is what I'm talking about:
mend jacket with needle
The elegant blue-grey suit jacket doesn't need to be mended.
The bit where it says it "doesn't need to be mended". It actually stops me from mending it with needle and thread--it's in good enough condition that it's impossible to use the mend verb on it ().
Again, I'm not talking about whether it says "excellent condition"; I know things can be mendable/fixable/etc before they get all the way down to "very good".
What I'm wondering is if there's perhaps a minimum amount something has to be damaged before the mend verb can be used on it. If, for example, condition might have to be down to 98% before you can mend it, and you can't mend it at 99% (but 99% is still very slightly damaged).
--Ilde 19:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Applique patterns and results

Simple Applique Shapes for Beginners

bonuses[1] shape description
152-165 square ineptly cut square
146-154, 267 square neatly cut square
152 square carefully cut square
146-165, 267 square delicately cut square
146-165, 267 square intricately cut square
146-165, 267 square deftly cut square
154, 267 square expertly cut square
158-165 diamond lopsided diamond
152-165 diamond uneven diamond
152-165, 267 diamond diamond
152-165, 267 diamond neatly cut diamond
154-165, 267 diamond pointy diamond
146-154 triangle uneven triangle
146-165, 267 triangle simple triangle
152-165, 267 triangle large triangle
146-152 triangle triangle
154-165, 267 triangle neatly cut triangle
146-165 circle lopsided oval
146-165, 267 circle small circle
146-165, 267 circle delicately cut circle
146-165 circle perfect circle
146-157 love heart lopsided love heart
146-154 love heart simple love heart
146-173, 267 love heart large love heart
146-173, 267 love heart love heart
154 love heart cute love heart
146-159 crescent moon crooked crescent
146-173, 267 crescent moon large crescent moon
146-173, 267 crescent moon neatly cut crescent moon
159-173 crescent moon mystical crescent moon
143 octagon lopsided octagon
146 octagon roughly cut octagon
142-173 octagon crooked octagon
142-173, 267 octagon large octagon
142-173, 267 octagon octagon
143-165, 267 octagon beautifully cut octagon
154 octagon expertly cut octagon
142 star deformed star
142-157 star frayed star
154-165 star poorly cut star
154-173 star crooked star
154-173 star simple star
165-173, 267 star star
267 star large star

A Lancrastian Quilt

bonuses shape Result
163 witch's hat triangle
163-173 witch's hat crooked hat
154-173 witch's hat small pointy hat
154-204, 267 witch's hat pointy hat
154-204, 267 witch's hat pointy witch's hat
204 witch's hat imposing pointy witch's hat
154-173 jester's hat crooked hat
163-205 jester's hat crooked jester's hat
163-205, 267 jester's hat jester's hat
154-205 jester's hat small jester's hat
205, 267 jester's hat large jester's hat

An introduction to patchwork quilting

bonuses shape Result
267 daisy neatly cut daisy
267 daisy lovely daisy

Applique Patterns for Intermediate and Expert Quilters

bonuses shape Result
168-173 mountain frayed mountain
174-175 mountain unevenly cut mountain
154-175, 267 mountain pointy mountain
154-175, 267 mountain jagged mountain
168-175 mountain mountain
170-175 mountain small mountain
173-174, 267 mountain craggy mountain
154-175 cauldron bumpy cauldron
154-175 cauldron stout cauldron
154-175 cauldron simple cauldron
168-175, 267 cauldron cauldron
173-175, 267 cauldron large cauldron
267 cauldron mysterious cauldron
154-175 cottage ugly cottage
154-175 cottage crooked cottage
168-175 cottage simple cottage
170-175, 267 cottage cosy cottage
267 cottage detailed cottage
154-175 bear malformed bear
154-175 bear distorted bear
267 bear small bear
267 bear bear
267 bear large bear
267 bear lively bear
168-170 wolf amateurish dog
154-175 wolf ugly wolf
267 wolf small wolf
267 wolf wolf
267 wolf large wolf
267 wolf snarling wolf
154-175, 267 tree strange tree
170-175, 267 tree ugly tree

Loose patterns

Individual patterns can sometimes be found in mystery bags of quilting supplies in the needlework shop on Loom Alley in Ankh-Morpork.

bonuses shape Result
154 - 160 butterfly lopsided butterfly
154 - 176 butterfly butterfly
160 - 176 butterfly small butterfly
176 butterfly dainty butterfly
159 cherry twisted cherry
159-175 cherry lopsided cherry
159 cherry simple cherry
159-175 cherry cheery cherry
159-175 cherry charming cherry
175 cherry elegant cherry
160-176 fish crooked fish
160-176 fish lively fish
160-176 fish cheerful fish
173-175 fleur-de-lis distorted triangle
173-175 fleur-de-lis ugly flower
160 frog deformed frog
176 horse ugly donkey
176 horse deformed horse
160-175 knotwork rectangle
184 rat ugly rat
160-176 rose ugly flower
160-176 rose bent rose

Footnotes

  1. Range of crafts.arts.design bonuses the result has been achieved with.