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Interaction between players on Discworld is restricted unless both players are part of a common league.
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Interaction between players on Discworld is restricted unless both players are part of a common '''league'''.
 
*By default players are not '''player killers''' which means that other players cannot kill them, steal from them or place contracts on them at the various [[Assassin Guilds|assassin guilds]].
 
*By default players are not '''player killers''' which means that other players cannot kill them, steal from them or place contracts on them at the various [[Assassin Guilds|assassin guilds]].
 
*In the past, this was called 'player killer' status, but now this works by joining the '''[[#Playerkillers league|Playerkillers league]]'''.
 
*In the past, this was called 'player killer' status, but now this works by joining the '''[[#Playerkillers league|Playerkillers league]]'''.

Revision as of 12:15, 2 August 2021

Interaction between players on Discworld is restricted unless both players are part of a common league.

  • By default players are not player killers which means that other players cannot kill them, steal from them or place contracts on them at the various assassin guilds.
  • In the past, this was called 'player killer' status, but now this works by joining the Playerkillers league.
  • There is also the experimental permanent Oldschool league, which allows anyone in (unless you leave, which is permanent) with no moderation nor restrictions on handling other people's corpses, see the section below.
  • Anyone can create temporary leagues and invite who they want, but they cannot last beyond 10 days.
  • You can only interact as player killers with another player if you are in a common league.
  • It is also possible to fight as player killers in the PK Arena even if you don't join any league.

Player Killers are commonly referred to as PK. In opposition, those who are Non-Player Killers are referred to as NPK.

Warning.png WARNING: There are drastic changes happening to PK. See: Playerkilling/2020_changes, news and Oldschool.

"Pk-checked"

For an action to be pk-checked generally means that players can only do it to others who are in a common league, and non-playerkillers can do it only to NPCs. Broadly, this applies to:

  • Attacking or stealing
  • Casting offensive spells
  • Performing offensive rituals
  • Picking locks on real estate, although if a pk is permitted in the house then any pk can pick the lock
  • Things that interfere with covert actions (the Light ritual, spraying perfume, etc.)

There are other, more specific, things that are checked. These include (but may not be limited to):

Some actions have a less strict check:

  • Find Corpse can be used on npks, and can be used on pks after being permitted.
  • Tempt is only checked for poisoned fruit.
  • Track can be used on npks.

There is also something called a pk assistance check, which means that npks can't perform the action on pks who are in combat with other pks. It applies to the scrying systems.

Actions that cannot be done anymore, except for members of the Oldschool league:

  • Corpse looting or dragging without being permitted and corpse burying.
  • Stealing furniture and items from them without being permitted in that room or house. (Not announced as being back for members of Oldschool.) research

Leagues

A league allows players to have PK interactions with other players that are in a common league.

  • The Playerkillers and Oldschool leagues are permanent.
  • Any player can create temporary leagues for consensual PK with willing participants.
  • An open invitation policy means that anyone can join automatically.
  • A closed invitation policy requires an invitation to join.

The league command is used to get information about a league or to create, join or leave a league.

  • league list - List all available leagues.
  • league create <name> - Create a new temporary league.
  • league info <league> - List members and other information for a league.
  • league list members of <league> - List the members of a league.
  • league list for <player> - List the leagues that a player is in.
  • league join <league> - Join a league
  • league leave <league> for <reason> - Leave a league.

Temporary leagues last for 10 days, or until their creator disbands them. These are intended for player-run events, or just for sparring with friends or having a wedding brawl.

Playerkillers league

Changes to PK, now known as the Playerkillers league, are ongoing and the information presented here might be out of date at any given moment.

Player killers (PK) are now referred to as members of the playerkillers league, the permanent league of Playerkillers.

  • Members of a league can kill other members of the league (and overall engage with them as a PK).
  • The league name/designation was changed from clan.
  • League members who have been in the league for at least 2 days of playtime (or everyone who was a PK at the time of the change) can vote in an election for league leader.
  • This election uses preference-based voting.
  • Candidates need someone in the league to second them.
  • NPKs are allowed to stand for the position of PK leader.

The elected Leader of PK, a player, has the following powers:

  • remove someone from the league (all members will get an inform about this)
  • invite someone to the league who was previously removed (or is too young to join)
  • see when someone previously left (and whether it was voluntary or not)
  • write a message in the league log file for future leaders to see (for example to note why a player was removed)

It has been stated that the leader of PK can be removed through an option to hold a vote of non-confidence (VONC), which has now been implemented.

Currently the commands for PK status changes and information are available with the league command:

  • league list members of Playerkillers - List the members of the Playerkillers league.
  • league join Playerkillers - Become a player killer.
  • league info Playerkillers - List members and other information for the Playerkillers league.
  • league leave Playerkillers - Stop being a player killer.
marshal: Reva
Officers: Eviscerator and Kwik
Policy: The league has an open invitation policy: everyone is free to join, except for those who have previously left or been removed.  (These players need to be invited before being able to join.)  Once you have joined, you must play for a full day before being able to leave.

Oldschool league

An experimental (possibly) permanent PK league was added on 31 July 2021 with the following (announced) characteristics compared to other leagues :

  • Corpse looting is allowed.
  • Corpse dragging is allowed.
  • Corpse burying is allowed.
  • Everyone is welcomed to join (once) even if banned from the Playerkillers league.
  • If you cannot join because you have been banned from the Playerkillers league or because you don't have enough playtime you can contact the league marshall to request an invitation.
  • No one will be banned from the league and complaints will probably be answered by suggesting to league leave Oldschool for <reason>, which will be permanent.
  • You can leave the league (after playing a full day) at anytime, but once you leave you cannot come back.

See below for the announcements.

Bulletin Boards: Frog
Re:#1 Permanent Old School Old Rules PK League
Note #92 by Pit at Sat Jul 31 04:49:49 2021 [EST] on board frog

On Fri Jul 30 18:30:37 2021, Dare wrote:
> If I get ten players to agree to join, Pit will make a new permanent league
> with old pk rules, the return of looting, and no liaison oversight.

As requested, I have now added a second permanent league called Oldschool. For technical reasons, it cannot be leaderless, so for now, Dare has been set as the leader; leadership is not by election, but can be passed to others. When I get around to it, the ability to loot, drag and bury corpses will be reinstated without prior warning, so please take this into account before joining.

Please note that this is an experiment to see whether a second league is sustainable. There will be no dedicated talker channel or board (at least not from the start); these may be added later if the league is a success. If the league ends up being inactive and not used, it'll eventually be removed. It is up to its members to keep it alive.

To become a member, use: league join oldschool

Note that it is possible to both be a member of Playerkillers and Oldschool. Note also that you can leave any league, but will probably not be able to ever rejoin.

Pit.
Bulletin Boards: Frog
Oldschool PK
Note #98 by Dare at Sat Jul 31 11:41:17 2021 [EST] on board frog

PK is back.

No rules, no liaisons, no bans, no bs.

All the grief you can handle, plus all the grief you can't.

You will be robbed. You will be looted. Your corpse will be dragged and buried or ritburied. You will be killed over and over, and no one will care no matter how much you cry.

Pure PK chaos like we used to do it.

If there are any questions about details just ask and I'll get the answers for you when I can.

Everyone is welcome. If you have been banned from PK contact me and I will invite you in. You're always welcome, no matter how much of a monster you are.

The only catch is if you quit, you can never come back.

Don't be a quitter. Be a killer.

league join oldschool

D.F.
Bulletin Boards: Frog
Looting is Restored
Note #115 by Dare at Sun Aug 1 14:57:14 2021 [EST] on board frog

Looting and corpsedragging have been restored.

Happy griefing, oldschool.

D.F.
Bulletin Boards: Frog
Re:#2 Looting is Restored
Note #117 by Dare at Sun Aug 1 18:06:12 2021 [EST] on board frog

On Sun Aug 1 16:13:40 2021 [EST], Sidd wrote:
> does this mean Turnerette is allowed to become PK again?

Yes it does. Everyone is welcome.

D.F.

Oldschool and player councils

Bulletin Boards: Frog
Re:#1 Oldschool PK
Note #100 by Juppie at Sat Jul 31 13:44:32 2021 [EST] on board frog

On Sat Jul 31 17:41:17 2021 [zomertijd], Dare wrote:
[...]

Be aware AM city rules still apply.

https://discworld.starturtle.net/lpc/secure/nomic_rules.c?type=area&area=Ankh-Morpork

Juppie
Magistrate
(Juppie edited this message at Sat Jul 31 18:44:32 2021.) 
Bulletin Boards: Frog
Re:#2 Oldschool PK
Note #101 by Machiavelli at Sat Jul 31 14:03:59 2021 [EST] on board frog

On Sat Jul 31 18:44:32 2021, Juppie wrote:
[...]

While council rules 'apply' they are 100% meaningless and are to be ignored as they will have 0 impact on you as a player. Ignore meaningless councils ftw.

Mach
Bulletin Boards: Frog
Re:#2 Oldschool PK
Note #102 by Dare at Sat Jul 31 14:21:08 2021 [EST] on board frog

On Sat Jul 31 12:44:32 2021 [EST], Juppie wrote:
> Be aware AM city rules still apply.

I've never been happier to not be on AM city council. Good luck with that guys.

D.F.

PS: Any oldschool PKs who cry to AM city council get pounded extra hard.

(Dare edited this message at Sat Jul 31 19:21:08 2021.)
Bulletin Boards: Frog
Re:#3 Oldschool PK
Note #111 by Jeanie at Sat Jul 31 21:50:46 2021 [EST] on board frog

On Sat Jul 31 12:44:32 2021 [EST], Juppie wrote:
> Be aware AM city rules still apply.

On Sat Jul 31 19:21:08 2021, Dare wrote:
> PS: Any oldschool PKs who cry to AM city council get pounded extra
> hard.

Magistrate Juppie's advice is good, and while former magistrate Dare
also seems to be trying to help everybody out, such threats were of
course more effective when people could not simply leave the league.
So it would be even more helpful if the oldschool PKs simply did their
corpse looting in the wide lawless areas outside Ankh-Morpork (and
Djelibeybi for that matter) - I suspect that the members of the new
league do not expect to be exempt from the rules of what may happen on
guild grounds either.

At any rate, the rules againt corpse looting and dragging were passed
in 2001, which should be sufficiently early to qualify as oldschool
for most people. If instead you prefer the late 1990s' situation, then
maybe you should petition for the removal of life taking contracts. ;)

Jeanie.

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