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Drakkos also pointed out that Pig in Latin is 'Porcus' and 'Orcus' was the roman god of the underworld and punisher of broken oaths.
Drakkos also pointed out that Pig in Latin is 'Porcus' and 'Orcus' was the roman god of the underworld and punisher of broken oaths.
:Something that becomes a little more compelling when you combine it with the following Thing: '''These are sometimes referred to as the 'stone pigs', but that's probably some sort of mistranslation. ''' [[User:Drakkos|Drakkos]] 19:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Heliotic|Heliotic]] 19:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Heliotic|Heliotic]] 19:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

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Echo Bazaar is a browser game located at http://echobazaar.failbettergames.com, and it requires you to sign up for a Twitter account if you don't have one yet.


Many delicious MUDers are playing. Add your MUD name and Twitter link to the list if you are:

Hints and Tricks

Get 9 extra fast regens

Try to end up with 0 Actions on your candle and 1 left for the day. Allow your candle to regen to 10. These actions will regen at the normal rate. Once you have ten, use them, then your regen rate will drop to half hour. The half hour regens are triggered not by regenerating your last action but by using an action with 1 regen left. Once you've used those ten, Echo to Twitter to get another ten, then spend any fate points you can to get more regens. Just before your regens return to normal rate, use the ten that accrued while you were asleep. Then you'll be ready to take advantage of the faster regen rate as soon as it appears.

Recognise the two levels of Chancy Storylets

When a Storylet first drops from High Risk to Chancy, you'll still fail more than you succeed. Get one more level of the required attribute. The difficulty will still be Chancy, but now you'll succeed much more than you fail. Use this to climb the ladder and earn maximum payments for storylets.


Certain cards will always increase your nightmares, certain cards will always reduce them. More often than not, you'll get fate when you increase your nightmares with Red-bordered cards. To reduce your nightmares, Drink laudanum. It'll likely wound you, so be sure to have a Hearty Meal. You can also decrease nightmares by using Sudden Insight and relieving your fears to a friend, drinking wine at the refreshment booth of the carnival, or at level 18 Dangerous will allow you to do Guard Duty at the Observatory which occasionally gives a decrease in nightmares along with the usual reward.

You can also reduce nightmares with "A Moment's Peace" opportunity, which will also give you a slight boost to Persuasive. When you get to Nightmares 5, the storylet "A Cheery Gentleman" will become available, which will greatly increase your nightmares. Don't pick this if you want to keep them down!


Animal Face cards allow you to trade connections for skill ups. Generally this isn't worth it, as the skills can be advanced elsewhere, and advancing connections, at least until you've reached rank 3 and can using the Carnival, are difficult.


See Bazaar Things.


The First City


  • I feel like, if I was writing Echo Bazaar... I'd want to make the First City be Rome. I have nothing to back this up, it just "feels right". --Dasquian 12:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


Could the first city perhaps be Egyptian? I base this on only a handful of clues - primarily that the Masters have a contempt for Egyptology, and that one of the hints talks about the bricks of the First City as being visible in places, and being marked with an eye (such as, for example, the Eye of Horus). Interestingly, according to Wikipedia, 'In the Ancient Egyptian measurement system, the Eye Of Horus defined Old Kingdom number one', which is very narratively neat. Drakkos 18:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

To square it with the 'the first city was young when Babylon fell' comment, I am increasingly tending towards the interpretation that the cities are dated from when they are dragged into the Neath rather than when they are founded, and that that particular quote is saying 'It was young because it was a failing experiment, and so our first city was replaced with Babylon'. 'Falling' in this context then refers to 'falling into the Neath' rather than 'falling to the Persians'. Drakkos 18:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Slightly more esoteric - the Starveling Cat, which rules over the roofs of the five stolen cities, would have had to have been there during the first city's existance. Cats and Egypt are a well known connection, but what's less well known is that the cat goddess Bastet was held to hold one of the divine eyes in conjunction with her brother Horus. Could that be our Starveling Cat? The fact that Bastet was held to have been a guardian against hunger (and now is starveling) also provides a link.

The Second City

  • I think the second city is Babylon, based on the relics (gypsum heads and indecpiherable clay tables). However, one of the 'things' is that 'The first city was young when Babylon fell'... one reading of this is that the First City was a short experiment, followed up by the second (Babylon)... another reading is that the first city was just founded shortly before Babylon fell (which would invalidate the thoery). Drakkos 12:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

The Third City

  • I think the Third City is Zadar. There is a hint which talks about it having "five wells" and nicer weather. Zadar is on the Adriatic coast and has a "five wells" square. It is also in a region where cinnabar would've been available, and I am led to believe Third City relics are cinnabar beads. --Dasquian 12:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

The Fourth City

Some relevant Things:

What can you find in the Forgotten Quarter? The Quarter is the last remnant of the Fourth City, which the Bazaar acquired five hundred years ago. Statues of warrior-kings line silent avenues. A fountain shaped like a silver tree stands before a ruined palace at its heart.

Fourth City relics Who carves horse-head amulets out of bone? Whoever lived in the Fourth City. If all the Fourth City amulets on sale are real, they must really have liked horses.

  • The Fourth City seems very likely to be Karakorum. The relics are carved-bone horse heads in blue glaze, and the Mongols were famous horse-users. There is also a reference in a hint to it having a silver tree fountain, which matches up very nicely to the one in Karakorum (credit to Siilaan). --Dasquian 12:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Why the cities fall

One of the references in the Bazaar links refers to stone pigs lying under the city that need to be sedated. If we assume that the first city was destroyed very quickly after it fell (it was young when the second fell) then one possibility is that the first was destroyed by something they weren't expecting - Previously unknown rampaging monsters would fit this bill, and it would also explain why subsequent cities have been destroyed as they awaken.

New cities are brought down onto the remains of the old one, which would also make it true that the first four cities are below London.

Drakkos also pointed out that Pig in Latin is 'Porcus' and 'Orcus' was the roman god of the underworld and punisher of broken oaths.

Something that becomes a little more compelling when you combine it with the following Thing: These are sometimes referred to as the 'stone pigs', but that's probably some sort of mistranslation. Drakkos 19:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Heliotic 19:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)